[Pat Hairston]

1/5/2022

Julie
2:15 PM (40 minutes ago)
to me

LOVED this young woman. Told me many stories of how intelligent her Tess was growing up. It was ‘her dog’ from 3rd grade to College senior. When Tess rolled in something dead, mom put Sabrina in the room and Tess and said figure it out. ha! She told me many stories that made me laugh proofing that Sabrina understands you have to try to be 3 steps ahead of the animal.

Duffy, Current dog is a rescue since 5/21, is 3 year old, M/N, UTD. So they haven’t had Duffy long. They were charged by a big dog on a walk and now take him to dog parks and he is trusting and understanding other dogs can be fun.
VET: 1 visit, UTD, on HeartGuard and NextGen

Has 1.2 acres and is fenced.

I really liked her attitude and understanding of what an Airedale can be. It’s the first time in many interviews that I automatically wanted to give someone an Airedale.

I would recommend a home visit for sure. She is interested in Fostering too…but I think she really just wants one that gets along with other dogs.

[Pat Hairston]

Christina Prange
Sun, Jan 2, 2:16 PM (1 day ago)
to ffranken@msn.com, mjulian65@hotmail.com, me

Hello Frank and Mark
Thank you for helping with Eli this week! I will let you two determine the best day for transport: Frank is available Monday, Friday or Sunday and Mark is flexible on any day. Can you let us know which day you two decide and also please let me know if you have any questions.

Leash – Frank, will you have a collar on Eli for when he is transported? When you and Mark meet, Mark will have a leash for Eli however in transport – please ensure Eli is wearing a tight (Safe!) fitted collar so he does not slip out. Of course, since you two are meeting directly, this is much better than multiple hand offs.

I’m thrilled you two will meet in person for Eli. This will make the day much easier and safer for Eli. We are thrilled for all 3 of you!

Safety:
Regular safety – please ensure that you are aware of Eli when opening car doors, transferring him from person to person, always making sure a hand is on the leash. Unless necessary, remain in car with A/C until transport transfer occurs; when opening car doors, ensure that the leash is secured by hand on the leash; when allowing potty breaks – ensure that collar/leash(s) are tight for no escape; be aware of surroundings – even a plastic bag in the wind may spook a dog in unfamiliar settings. Do not let him off leash at any time 😊
Do not feel the need to walk Eli outside if you arrive early. Sitting in the car in the A/C will be fine for him. (IF you have a water bowl, please bring it so she can take a water sip between cars to keep him hydrated)..
PLEASE USE YOUR CHILD LOCKS so that Eli cannot accidentally open a window or door! (It has happened!)

Phone:
Christina 919-605-4563
Pat 910-200-5890
Frank 706-331-0658
Mark 9109862712

Meeting location – this is halfway between Covington, GA and Pinehurst, NC.
Days Inn by Wyndham Lexington, 1015 S Lake Dr, Lexington, SC 29073

Christina Prange
919-605-4563

[Pat Hairston]

12/28/2021 Pat called and talked with Deputy Ashly Coward, 919-560-7597 Case #21120446. The deputy had not seen the bites yet, but based on talking with Peter did not think Luke was a dangerous dog. His hold date is until 1/6/22.

We can call Durham APS to speak with them about Luke.

[Pat Hairston]

Re: advice needed

Pat Hairston
Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 10:50 AM (6 days ago)
to Barbara, Christina, Jackie

Below is what was on the form and what was communicated to the foster. I was told in a conversation that he always barked at the young (8-10 yr old) nieces and nephews but he was kept away from them and never socialized with them. Based on what was written and said we could not have predicted this outcome. This is a dog from the get-goo was under socialized, not trained and mostly ignored by the surrender who than moved to Ohio and left the dog with their 19 and 20 yr old kids. Bad situation all the way around.

Airedale Interactions (check all that apply to your Airedale): Sweet dog, loves to cuddle, Afraid of thunderstorms, Afraid of loud noises, Children: Not good, afraid of kids, Cats: OK with cats (will tolerate and live peacefully with a cat), Dogs: Good with small dogs, Bites or has a bite history (explain below), Aggressive to people/kids (hostile, injurious, or destructive behavior toward an individual)
Explain the dog being an escape artist (escapes from fenced area, sneaks out doors):: Escapes from fenced area, climbs gate or will also go under.
Dog’s best qualities are:: He is an affectionate and loving dog. He likes to play. He did well with his training and is smart.
Dog’s worst qualities are:: He is needy for attention and gets jealous if he is not the center of attention. He mainly only obeys my husband who went to training with him.

Has dog ever bitten a person or dog? If yes, please describe when and the circumstances: Yes. He bit our son who was about 19 or 20 at the time. He was telling Luke to get off the couch and he wouldn’t obey. My son grabbed his collar to pull him down and he bit him. It was bruised and sore but did not draw blood.

[Pat Hairston]

cgreendr
Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 7:58 AM (7 days ago)
to me, Christina


Pat,
A few more thoughts on Luke after looking at the info on the website as well as re-reading the emails:

The bites look minor in nature with only slight disruption of the skin so could be warning bites that he was uncomfortable or could be inappropriate use of mouth when interacting .
No doubt the kids being home added excitement and uncertainty so lots of potential there for things to go wrong . I believe they have only had Luke a short time so may not have established clear boundaries and safe zones.
I also read that he had previously been primarily an outside dog so close proximity and excited interactions in the home could very well create discomfort for him or place him in situations he does not know how to handle.
Just going on brief descriptions of incidents with daughter it is possible that he was “mouth grabbing” to attempt to continue or re-engage play (interacting with human same as with another dog). This is a fairly common behavior in mouthy breeds like Airedales. Certainly not acceptable but dogs need to learn early in life how to be respectful with their mouth . I have worked with numerous dogs with this issue due to lack of guidance when young.
Hopefully the contact you mention in Raleigh can do complete assessment of Luke to determine if there are serious behavior issues that would make him unadoptable or if he just needs some good training. Another foster home or adoption home would also need guidance on how to support Luke in learning more appropriate behavior.

Cindy
Sent from my iPad
Cindy G

[Pat Hairston]

Re: Concern about Luke
5-ARG/Dogs Available/Luke 1221

cgreendr
Sun, Dec 26, 2021, 9:36 PM (8 days ago)
to me, Christina

Hi Pat,
Just now had a chance to review this email and info . Will get back to you in the morning with some detailed thoughts but based on photos and limited info on what transpired I really think this guy got a bad rap and is not a dangerous dog. Limited information here but injuries do not appear to be the result of an aggressive dog intending to do damage. Understand the concern on the part of foster care givers but may be a case of misguided dog and humans.

Cindy

[Pat Hairston]

Re: Concern about Luke

Pat Hairston
Sun, Dec 26, 2021, 12:32 PM (8 days ago)
to Cynthia, Christina

from Foster a few minutes ago

“ Animal Control picked Luke up. I just got back from the ER. Luckily, nothing is broken and her skin was not punctured. And my daughter was up to date on Tetanus Shots”

[Pat Hairston]

Fwd: Concern about Luke

Pat Hairston
Sun, Dec 26, 2021, 12:21 PM (8 days ago)
to Cynthia, Christina

Cindy-

I hope you all had a very Merry Christmas.

We need your input
on 4 yr old Luke, recently in foster home, neutered on 12/21.

See emails below. Summary Luke greater the adult daughter of the foster and later proceeded to lunge at her biting her face and his forward motion broke her nose. He then grabbed at her as she was walking away. She had been petting him and made direct eye contact. When the adult son was rubbing Luke’s stomach with his foot, Luke bit his foot.

I encouraged them to crate Luke and keep him on leash with one of them the reminder of the visit.

Today, Luke sought the daughters attention she was rubbing him and he turned in her grabbed her write big her and possible broke her wrist.

I have instructed the foster to call Animal Control and have them take him as she needs him out of the home asap.

I feel this an unrecoverable, escalating and unpredictable situation and the dog will need to be euthanized.

Thoughts?

Thanks Cindy.

———- Forwarded message ———
From: Janene Tompkins
Date: Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: Concern about Luke
To: Pat Hairston
CC: Christina Prange

Pat,
Thanks for your quick response. We would hate to part with Luke! We will leash him or crate him tomorrow while we have the rest of the family over for dinner.

From the Dunbar Scale, I would definitely say the face bite was a level two. The incident took place in the first few minutes after Adair arrived. We thought it was b/c she was looking in his eyes and talking to him. Maybe the eye contact was perceived as a threat? It was so odd because he had been excited to meet her and greeted her. It was after she rubbed his head and told him he was a good boy that he lunged up at her face. She was not on his level, but leaning forward while talking to him. The second incident was even stranger. He was leaning on Adair to get petted. Then she stopped and turned to walk away and he jumped up and tried to bite her arm. There was no growling or barking with either incident.

I would love to have him assessed. Up until now, he has been the perfect companion. He has not been mouthy with us at all. Maybe he does not do well with new people in the house? Also, he has not had a lot of exercise this week due to his neuter surgery. Maybe all that pent up energy and also not feeling quite right contributed.

The daughter of the previous owner mentioned that he growled at a child and they got concerned about that.

At this point we do not want to move him. We would like to work with him to make sure he can be his best self. He has been a big cuddle big and continues to be. He really seemed sorry for his outburst and tried to sit next to Adair on the sofa.

Let’s connect on Sunday. I have a house full of people coming for Christmas dinner. We will watch him closely and crate him when guests arrive.

Janene Tompkins, CFP®️

On Dec 24, 2021, at 10:31 PM, Pat Hairston wrote:


Janene-

I am so very sorry this has happened.

I hope your daughter will be alright and has sought medical treatment. ARG understands this is reportable to Animal Control and Luke will likely need to be quarantined for 10 days, perhaps even at animal control.

My first suggestion is to crate him and keep him out of the activity. When not crated, I suggest he be leashed and kept with with you or Peter. Everyone, including you and Peter should not have your face near his face.

Was Luke overly exited during any of this that the excitement could have ramped up too much and resulted in his actions? Was this when your daughter first arrived or had she been there a while? Did she have food nearby or in her hand? Was there a lot of excitement, laughing, noise, etc? Trying to get a picture of the events surrounding the bite.

We were told he was mouthy, which could have resulted in this because he is large and strong. Not an excuse, just a statement.

In situations as this, I refer to the Ian Dunbar bite scale when assessing a situation like this. (
https://apdt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ian-dunbar-dog-bite-scale.pdf). Without seeing the wound, this may be considered a level 2 on this scale, particularly because of your daughters broken nose, which could have been caused by Luke’s forward momentum. With that, we (ARG) can engage a trainer to do a behavioral assessment of Luke and determine if we have a recoverable situation with training. I have someone in Raleigh that I will contact on Monday.

I am not sure I have someone I can move him to tomorrow or Sunday but I will do the best to get him some place else if that is what will make you most comfortable.

If you would like to call and talk in the morning I will be available.

Pat

On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 9:39 PM Janene Tompkins wrote:
Hi everyone,
Merry Christmas. We had a couple of not good incidents with Luke tonight. Our adult children came home to visit today. Luke bit my daughter on the face when she was petting him. A little while later she was talking to him and turn to walk away and he jumped up and tried to bite her arm. Both of these were unprovoked. He also attempted to bite my son’s foot when he was rubbing his belly with his foot. With that one, we think Daniel may have been too close to Luke’s neuter incision.

The attempts one our daughter are more concerning. The bite on my daughter’s face broke the skin and he hit her hard enough that she may have broken her nose.

This is the first time Luke has been anything but a gentleman. We are not sure what to think.

Any advice is most welcome.

Thanks,

Janene Tompkins, CFP®️
—
Pat Hairston
Via iPhone
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[Pat Hairston]

1/3/2022

Cynthia Bex
8:49 AM (59 minutes ago)
to me

Happy New Year, Pat! Hope you had very happy holidays. I just wanted to let you know that our Coonhound, Blue, passed away a few weeks ago from malignant melanoma of the mouth. It is very strange around here with no one to greet us at the door. Anyway, please keep us on your list for the future.

Best wishes,
Cindy Bex
843-415-3847

[Pat Hairston]

1/2/2022 Spoke with Hannah about Lady

They got her when she was about 6-8 months old from a rehome situation when a couple was divorcing. The dog had been crated and ignored, no training, not cared for.

Sometimes Lady gets grumpy and does not want to be bothered but she will just grumble.
Needs an ADT experienced home who can work with her; needs leash work as she pulls.
Has an outside fenced area, but uses for potty and play.
Thinks their child is the littermate; would be better with older children >10 yrs
Came from Breeder in Rogerville TN, has papers and can be registered.
Given HW shot, likely due soon. May need update vaccines but $$ has been an issue for the family.
Gets on furniture. Does not sleep in bed but gets on it. Sleeps in dog bed with her blanket and bone; respect her space when sleeping as she does not like to be bothered.
Does not need crate and Lady hates it; likely hates it from her puppyhood.

[Pat Hairston]

Barbara Yager
Sun, Dec 26, 2021, 5:03 PM (7 days ago)
to me

Ugh

Yes dog should be euthanized asap after a hold.

Are we in danger of having the folks ask for medical expenses? If so we should pay upon receipt of medical bills. And we should pay the medical provider whatever isnt covered by her insurance assuming she has some.

Liability is expensive and is only offered by a few agents. As soon as you relay our history, the rates will be high. This is not something we can do anything about, it just is. When I looked into it, it was about $2,000 it could be twice that but you can only make a decision based on the facts. I would first ask national their point of view on how they handle insurance and if they cover or help the sister organizations? The benefit from belonging to national would be to be included under their umbrella policy as long as the organization was following the national rules. = whatever they are.

If you think about the number of years we have operated and the lack of aggression of any of our fosters or owners. liability seems like an added expense. But again you need to know how national deals with this on a national level, if they have ever been sued and if they carry insurance.as well as their thoughts on offering coverage to all of the groups.

Second, you need to know if folks who want to sue ARG can also include the officers of the group. Would that be successful? You can ask Cyn.

Let me know if you want to chat. I am working next week but no one is online so I am more likely to have time.

Hugs
Bay .

On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 10:30 AM Pat Hairston wrote:
Hi Bay-

Hope you had a wonderful Christmas.

Sadly, ARG has an issue with a recently surrendered dog. Luke who is with Janene Tompkins attacked her adult daughter 3 times in 2 days. This morning he was seeking her attention, rubbing in her, trying to get in her lap and then turned on her, bit her repeatedly with a possible broken wrist. I have asked Janeen to call animal control and turn him over to them. I do not think this is recoverable. He now bit 2 people in 2 days. i told Janene I did not think he was recoverable.

Once Animal Control has him I will communicate with them. But I think he needs to be euthanized after the rabies hold. Hurts my heart to say that but the liability is too great.

What is our need to pay for medical and liability? And should we pursue liability insurance in the new year.

Thank you.
Pat
—
Pat Hairston
Via iPhone

—
Barbara Reese Yager
theairedale@gmail.com
803.547.2829

[Pat Hairston]

Janene Tompkins
Fri, Dec 24, 2021, 11:34 PM (9 days ago)
to me, Christina

Pat,
Thanks for your quick response. We would hate to part with Luke! We will leash him or crate him tomorrow while we have the rest of the family over for dinner.

From the Dunbar Scale, I would definitely say the face bite was a level two. The incident took place in the first few minutes after Adair arrived. We thought it was b/c she was looking in his eyes and talking to him. Maybe the eye contact was perceived as a threat? It was so odd because he had been excited to meet her and greeted her. It was after she rubbed his head and told him he was a good boy that he lunged up at her face. She was not on his level, but leaning forward while talking to him. The second incident was even stranger. He was leaning on Adair to get petted. Then she stopped and turned to walk away and he jumped up and tried to bite her arm. There was no growling or barking with either incident.

I would love to have him assessed. Up until now, he has been the perfect companion. He has not been mouthy with us at all. Maybe he does not do well with new people in the house? Also, he has not had a lot of exercise this week due to his neuter surgery. Maybe all that pent up energy and also not feeling quite right contributed.

The daughter of the previous owner mentioned that he growled at a child and they got concerned about that.

At this point we do not want to move him. We would like to work with him to make sure he can be his best self. He has been a big cuddle big and continues to be. He really seemed sorry for his outburst and tried to sit next to Adair on the sofa.

Let’s connect on Sunday. I have a house full of people coming for Christmas dinner. We will watch him closely and crate him when guests arrive.

Janene Tompkins, CFP®️

[Pat Hairston]

On Dec 24, 2021, at 10:31 PM, Pat Hairston wrote:


Janene-

I am so very sorry this has happened.

I hope your daughter will be alright and has sought medical treatment. ARG understands this is reportable to Animal Control and Luke will likely need to be quarantined for 10 days, perhaps even at animal control.

My first suggestion is to crate him and keep him out of the activity. When not crated, I suggest he be leashed and kept with with you or Peter. Everyone, including you and Peter should not have your face near his face.

Was Luke overly exited during any of this that the excitement could have ramped up too much and resulted in his actions? Was this when your daughter first arrived or had she been there a while? Did she have food nearby or in her hand? Was there a lot of excitement, laughing, noise, etc? Trying to get a picture of the events surrounding the bite.

We were told he was mouthy, which could have resulted in this because he is large and strong. Not an excuse, just a statement.

In situations as this, I refer to the Ian Dunbar bite scale when assessing a situation like this. (
https://apdt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ian-dunbar-dog-bite-scale.pdf). Without seeing the wound, this may be considered a level 2 on this scale, particularly because of your daughters broken nose, which could have been caused by Luke’s forward momentum. With that, we (ARG) can engage a trainer to do a behavioral assessment of Luke and determine if we have a recoverable situation with training. I have someone in Raleigh that I will contact on Monday.

I am not sure I have someone I can move him to tomorrow or Sunday but I will do the best to get him some place else if that is what will make you most comfortable.

If you would like to call and talk in the morning I will be available.

Pat

[Pat Hairston]

12/24/2021

Janene Tompkins
Fri, Dec 24, 2021, 9:39 PM (9 days ago)
to me, Christina

Hi everyone,
Merry Christmas. We had a couple of not good incidents with Luke tonight. Our adult children came home to visit today. Luke bit my daughter on the face when she was petting him. A little while later she was talking to him and turn to walk away and he jumped up and tried to bite her arm. Both of these were unprovoked. He also attempted to bite my son’s foot when he was rubbing his belly with his foot. With that one, we think Daniel may have been too close to Luke’s neuter incision.

The attempts one our daughter are more concerning. The bite on my daughter’s face broke the skin and he hit her hard enough that she may have broken her nose.

This is the first time Luke has been anything but a gentleman. We are not sure what to think.

Any advice is most welcome.

Thanks,

Janene Tompkins, CFP®️

[Pat Hairston]

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