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Pat Hairston
4:54 PM (1 hour ago)
to cgreendrHi Cindy,
Thanks for passing this note on.
Well, that is more detail than we got. The last message we had was get him out now or we will have him euthanized! We too have a lot of thoughts as to what could have happened.
Because they gave us no information on the training they used and would not give any specifics, ARG will likely not foster or adopt to them.
Chewie is a challenge but with the right direction, he has proved to you and now Jessica that he is trainable. He just needs the right person.
Pat
cgreendr
4:06 PM (2 hours ago)
to mePat,
I received this text today and just passing on to you. I haven’t replied and of course I have a lot of thoughts about what went wrong in that household .“Hi this is Edward Gagnon. Leslie and I have been very concerned that Chewie found a good home. We loved him and he became very attached to Leslie and protective of our house. Leslie had done a lot of training with him and they loved each other. He is very smart and was learning the rules of our home. He learned where we kept his food and would wait by the laundry roomb door at mealtime. Leslie even trained to lay down and wait until she put the food down and gave him permission to eat. He even would get his leash and wait by the door to go out. When it was only barking at people coming in the yard we could cope with that but he became very protective of Leslie and would not let me in the bedroom when Leslie went to bed first. The last night we had him he was guarding the bedroom door so I just went in to a recliner in our Carolina room. Sometime after I was asleep he decided to “patrol” the house. He found me and treated me as an intruder. I woke up with him growling and snapping at my face. Thankfully I had a blanket to fend him off or I think I would have been bitten.
If you would consider letting us try to foster another Airedale we would like to try to adopt in September when we get back from Egypt.”Hope you are having a great weekend,
CindyJackie M. Cash via airedalerescuegroup.com
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Thu, Jun 9, 2:45 PM (21 hours ago)
to Beth, infoHi, Beth. I’ve attached a photo of the little guy. OMG, he’s so cute. The owner got him as a 6-wk-old pup so he lacks proper socialization and didn’t learn bite inhibition from his mom or littermates. But he is all Airedale. He loves other dogs and every person he meets, but he’s already the boss of the house over the single 25-y-o woman who hides from him in the bathroom or sits in her car to keep away from his nipping. She spanks him with a magazine to get him to mind! I told her that Airedales do not respond to punitive corrections. She says he freaks out in the crate and she uses that for time-outs, and I suspect it’s for long periods of time. She keeps him in there until he stops barking. She says Hugo doesn’t nip at her boyfriend because he’s tall and stands over Hugo and tells him NO in a stern voice. I told her to work on that herself and to keep Hugo on a leash in the house so that she can stop any unwanted behavior before it starts.
Hugo was neutered last week and has no problems with his incision and has been vaxed and is up to date. He eats well, loves to ride in the car, loves to go on walks, loves to cuddle, and loves to play. She claims to walk him 2x a day 2 miles each time.
She has not used any professional trainers for him because they’re too expensive but she’s read a lot online and nothing she has tried works for him and she said: “he’s mean to her.” Sigh.
We absolutely want him in an Airedale-experienced home with someone who knows how to train that pup and how to teach him to be gentle. I hope that’s you, Beth!
Let me know what you think. Thank you!
Mary: Samia Smith – I spoke only to Simia. She hasn’t had a dog since she was growing up. Her husband, Doug, has had a dog but it was ‘a long while ago. Her brother-in-law has an Airedale, which is how they are familiar with the breed. This dog is 9 and the b-in-l has had him since a puppy. The lack of pets in recent years explains why they have no vet/groomer references They are interested in a puppy or young adult (<5). Size-wise, they are looking for a medium sized dog up to 75 pounds tops. They would like to take him/her for walks and runs; she mentioned also running the dog alongside their bike (good luck with that, lol!) but I told them that was probably not a good idea given their high prey drive and they might end up doing a face-plant if a squirrel or cat ran by.
The couple has a good-sized lot but it is currently unfenced. I told her we don’t recommend an unfenced yard for an Airedale, reiterating about their prey drive. I also spoke about those times when walking is just not feasible, for whatever reason, and having a fenced yard will allow the dog to run in the yard. Although we do know a few folks who don’t have unfenced yards, given
this couple has not had any dog in years, maybe decades, and never an Airedale, I would not recommend them unless they do fence the yard. They had been thinking whether to fence or not and based on our discussion, it seemed like they would. They do not have any other pets.Simia listened well to my suggestions and she and Doug also have an awareness of the costs for general care, food, etc. ($1,000 – $2,000). They would take the dog to obedience classes and the dog would mostly have the run of the house when they’re home or would stay in the basement or sunroom when they are not. She also notes microchipping the dog, flyers, and social media
should the dog get lost, which shows forethought of possibilities.
M
y recommendation for them is to require they fence the yard; the home visit could be done after the yard is fenced or with stipulation they send us a photo of the new fence. Perhaps a dog on the higher end of their requested age range (5, even 6, 7, or 8) might be a better start for them. Simia’s personal reference gave her glowing reviews. She knows her from when they both worked at a VA medical center and then VA assisted living home working with geriatrics. She has never seen her not patient; she is very compassionate and responsible. Both Simia and her reference, Stephanie, have/had spouses in the military. Doug, Simia’s husband, is still in the military. Stephanie has 3 Yorkies and 3 cats so I asked her if she would trust Simia with her
dogs if something happened to them and she told me absolutely.Next step: schedule home visit with the stipulation the yard must be fenced in order to receive a dog.
Jackie M. Cash
12:51 PM (1 hour ago)
to Charleigh, AiredaleHello, again, Charleigh. Thank you for taking the time to talk to me about Hugo and your wish to relinquish him to ARG. We understand how difficult it can be to train an Airedale pup, especially one who has been separated from its mother and littermates at such a young age.
I don’t think we’ll have any problem finding someone appropriate to adopt Hugo and we will start checking through our approved applicants and former adopters immediately.
Please ask your vet, Banfield, to email Hugo’s complete medical records to us at info@airedalerescuegroup.com or fax to 815-301-2959. If you have his registration and puppy papers from the breeder, please also forward those to us. We do not provide those to adopters, but we like to know where the pup came from. It helps us if we encounter other Airedales from the same breeder.
As we discussed, for the time being, try keeping Hugo on a leash even in the house so that you can correct his behavior before he tries to bite or tries to poop in the house. Make him sit. Use your boyfriend’s stance and tone to correct him; no spanking. Keep his time-outs to 10 minutes or less; after that time, he no longer associates being in the crate with whatever he has done. Airedales do best with praise for doing what you ask rather than punishment for what you didn’t want.
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Otherwise, we will be back in touch soon.
Jackie Cash | 901-438-5782
Declined Patton.
mrbearwoods2@aol.com
12:21 PM (1 hour ago)
to info, JetStar511, mcprange, airedalemailThank you so much for letting us know about this beautiful girl. Judy and I discussed it, based on the info you provided below. Unfortunately, we live in a small, closed neighborhood with lots of dogs being walked, cats roaming free, not to mention wildlife from deer to squirrels, and just about everything in between. Given Patton’s dislike of other dogs and her weight we feel that we are not the best location/owners for Patton.
We wish you and her good fortune in finding a forever home for this lovely girl. WJT
6/2/2022: Offered Patton; declined
Cynthia Bex via airedalerescuegroup.com
8:44 AM (1 hour ago)
to infoThanks Pat for the information on Patton. I am afraid I am going to have to pass right now. My Mom has been in the hospital with heart problems so I am very busy with all of that. Also, my son has a mini Goldendoodle (15 pounds). He is a firefighter so I look after him when he is working. It sounds like Patton would not get along with him. Thanks for thinking about me but it is a difficult time right now with my Mom.
Cindy
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 6:39 PM Christina Prange
nice note about Tucker
I think the message is – Kevin does not want him to bounce any more, since Kevin is the 4th home. take time to find him a good home and Kevin can foster him until that good home is found. The other thing that I read is – not for them.
So – all is good, just know we have a big Teddy bear of a dog in need of a home.Christina Prange
919-605-4563—–Original Message—–
From: kevin maclean
To: mcprange@aol.com
Sent: Tue, May 31, 2022 6:28 pm
Subject: TuckerHi Christina
Not sure what or how much you need to know re Tucker, but I assume the more info the better the placement ?
Here it goes – Thursday met Tucker at Cheryl’s – normal greeting. Friday 10am met back at Cheryl’s and the whole clan was there. Husband, daughter, son , grandson etc so Tucker was in a active house.
But only leash walks so not too much running for a 17mo. old Airedale. He jumped right in the Airedale chariot and off we went. rides well – laid down soon after.
Once home – proper intro to Elsa – smooth and then lot of porch time , leash walk around backyard, later off leash. Good but bit rough with Elsa, big boy and not really sure how to play. Assume the bully brother had something to do with that.
Stays close to me- but gentle loving looking for rubs etc. We worked on a few simple commands, sit -down stay etc. Dinner time – no grazing eats in under 90 seconds, but Elsa as well.
Night time crate in another room and he was not too happy. Chris had overnight duty. Moved crate Sat to bedroom and that works well.
Spent most of Sat outside porch contained etc. Loose with Elsa is iffy. it’s 85# verses 45# and Elsa is type A dale. Loves to chew- loves ball playing. He and Elsa get 3 balls going and everyone wants the other one. Saturday afternoon I saw a small change , improvement. Dogs played better Tucker getting a sense of where he is at. Drinks a ton and love fresh cool water. peed- pooped regularly. Not sure why not at Cheryl’s but I think lack of activity. Lets you brush him , feet a little iffy. Stretched out for a belly rubs. This guy is a mile long. I bet 5″5″ on hind legs.
Now Sunday, saw vast improvement in listening . He so wants to please. Started leash walking outside on back yard. Using a prong collar and he seems good with this. Pulls a bit and have not encountered any deer or dogs/ people yet but so far so good.
Monday – this boy is mostly settled in.
Commands, sit, down, stay, wait, house, kennel all decent. Off and leave it decent. Continuing with down before food. Takes treats gently. The guy is a big teddy bear but doesn’t know how big he is. And actually, weight wise we have had bigger but height and length he is in 95% tile.
He needs a structured environment with positive commands. A bit pushy going outdoors and sneaky doing so as he waits and goes out behind you. Door sneak. Has some separation issues though in 4 days those have dropped off some. has shown to be a bit mouthy, mild though. Counter surfs a bit and will jump up on people. Working on that.He is a great dog. We are his 4th stop in 17 months. I hope you have someone who needs and wants a really good dog. Tucker has a loving heart and so want s to be someone’s best dog. He needs work but not much. I would keep him and so would Chris if we were dogless.
I will foster as long as needed. I dont want him rushed off to just place him. But I think that after 4 moves he needs to get into a forever home sooner rather than later. Please use your best on this guy. He is a lover boy.
I will try to get a couple short videos of Tucker in the yard
thanks
Kevin5/24/2022 Huey is being picked up by Judy Rogers (Tootle’s mom) and brought to Hadnot Creek Kennels, Jessica, for boarding and training. He will be worked with everyday.
Christina Prange
10:35 AM (2 hours ago)
to me, airedalemail@comcast.netJessica is ready for Huey! She is thrilled to have him. NO e-collar will be used.
She has an appointment from 12-2 today so she was thinking 3-5 would be a good drop off time.
$20 day since we are returning customers. (She says she remembers Rosie, my first Airedale who was a boarder at their kennel)
It was good to catch up with her – she is figuring things out but she and Donnie did this together for 24 years. now she is figuring it out on her own – with their daughter.
As far as treats – she said ‘she is the treat’ for reward. So, she said she is not even food treat motivated training. He will get worked everyday.Yes, we need a ride there. Of all the Huey responses – I did not get one on any help but I did not ask for transport help. Let me send one to one person. Or can you call Judy?
Christina Prange
919-605-4563On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 12:43 PM Christina Prange wrote:
hi – I don’t think they need a HV. They are good.
Olive was pretty perfect dog and had a really good personality.. Her first family (a friend of mine through daycare), never gave Olive a boundary. One day Olive got picked up from daycare and she got in the front seat, next to Dad who was driving. Olives mom got in the back seat. Our daycare owner said – oh no, Olive goes in the backseat and the parents said – oh we never tell her no. Olive’s parents had human twins and she really did not like them and that is how Olive came into ARG however, Judith & Bill never had the attitude problems from Olive. Olive quickly learned her boundaries and was probably very happy to have them!Yes, Olive was smaller sized.
Christina Prange
919-605-4563—–Original Message—–
From: Annecy Airedale
To: Jackie M. Cash
Cc: Christina Prange ; Pat Nowak Hairston
Sent: Thu, Apr 28, 2022 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: For Mary: Previous Adopters-Judith & William Taylor Application Form submitted on Airedale Rescue GroupJust off the phone with Bill and Judy Taylor. I asked them if anything had changed about their home, in case there might be a need for another home visit but they said no changes. I did tell them I wasn’t sure if one would be required or not so if you feel we should revisit, it won’t be awkward.
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Similar to when they adopted Olive, they want a smaller dog. They prefer to stay under 60 lbs, although 65 would be okay. They’ve had females before but either male or female would be okay – it’s just that the males are often bigger, Bill said. They did help with transport for a 1-1/2 YO male in the past and that was the only real experience they had with a male.They would like a family-oriented dog, not aloof, and is comfortable meeting other dogs since there are many dogs in the neighborhood. They only lost Olive on March 12 so it’s recent but if the right dog comes along that would be a match, and there is no one else waiting for ‘that’ dog, they are happy to welcome sooner vs. later. They just know it’s first come, first serve for the right match so wanted to get their names on the list. A dog similar in personality to Olive would be great – she was ‘perfect.’
They told me their daughter has 3 dogs and a cat but since they live a few hours away, they don’t normally bring them with them when they visit, although it would still be a good idea for the dog to not be territorial so that if they do bring one or another of the dogs, there isn’t an issue.
Wasn’t sure how to enter this properly in the ARG intranet so sending via email.
Mary
On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 9:55 AM Jackie M. Cash wrote:
Morning, Mary. Hope you’re having a good Sunday morning. You’re next for this application; can you take it?
They adopted from us in 2016 and have used Christina as a reference. They don’t tell us what happened to Olive; maybe Christina knows. IDK if they’ll need a home visit — Claire Payne did the last one, but it has been 6 years and they are in their mid-70s (as am I!).Anyway, here’s their app from 2016:
http://intranet.airedalerescuegroup.com/forum/topic/judith-and-william-taylor-barnardsville-nc-82016/
