[Pat Hairston]

Barbara Yager
Sun, Dec 26, 2021, 5:03 PM (7 days ago)
to me

Ugh

Yes dog should be euthanized asap after a hold.

Are we in danger of having the folks ask for medical expenses? If so we should pay upon receipt of medical bills. And we should pay the medical provider whatever isnt covered by her insurance assuming she has some.

Liability is expensive and is only offered by a few agents. As soon as you relay our history, the rates will be high. This is not something we can do anything about, it just is. When I looked into it, it was about $2,000 it could be twice that but you can only make a decision based on the facts. I would first ask national their point of view on how they handle insurance and if they cover or help the sister organizations? The benefit from belonging to national would be to be included under their umbrella policy as long as the organization was following the national rules. = whatever they are.

If you think about the number of years we have operated and the lack of aggression of any of our fosters or owners. liability seems like an added expense. But again you need to know how national deals with this on a national level, if they have ever been sued and if they carry insurance.as well as their thoughts on offering coverage to all of the groups.

Second, you need to know if folks who want to sue ARG can also include the officers of the group. Would that be successful? You can ask Cyn.

Let me know if you want to chat. I am working next week but no one is online so I am more likely to have time.

Hugs
Bay .

On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 10:30 AM Pat Hairston wrote:
Hi Bay-

Hope you had a wonderful Christmas.

Sadly, ARG has an issue with a recently surrendered dog. Luke who is with Janene Tompkins attacked her adult daughter 3 times in 2 days. This morning he was seeking her attention, rubbing in her, trying to get in her lap and then turned on her, bit her repeatedly with a possible broken wrist. I have asked Janeen to call animal control and turn him over to them. I do not think this is recoverable. He now bit 2 people in 2 days. i told Janene I did not think he was recoverable.

Once Animal Control has him I will communicate with them. But I think he needs to be euthanized after the rabies hold. Hurts my heart to say that but the liability is too great.

What is our need to pay for medical and liability? And should we pursue liability insurance in the new year.

Thank you.
Pat
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Pat Hairston
Via iPhone

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Barbara Reese Yager
theairedale@gmail.com
803.547.2829

[Pat Hairston]

Janene Tompkins
Fri, Dec 24, 2021, 11:34 PM (9 days ago)
to me, Christina

Pat,
Thanks for your quick response. We would hate to part with Luke! We will leash him or crate him tomorrow while we have the rest of the family over for dinner.

From the Dunbar Scale, I would definitely say the face bite was a level two. The incident took place in the first few minutes after Adair arrived. We thought it was b/c she was looking in his eyes and talking to him. Maybe the eye contact was perceived as a threat? It was so odd because he had been excited to meet her and greeted her. It was after she rubbed his head and told him he was a good boy that he lunged up at her face. She was not on his level, but leaning forward while talking to him. The second incident was even stranger. He was leaning on Adair to get petted. Then she stopped and turned to walk away and he jumped up and tried to bite her arm. There was no growling or barking with either incident.

I would love to have him assessed. Up until now, he has been the perfect companion. He has not been mouthy with us at all. Maybe he does not do well with new people in the house? Also, he has not had a lot of exercise this week due to his neuter surgery. Maybe all that pent up energy and also not feeling quite right contributed.

The daughter of the previous owner mentioned that he growled at a child and they got concerned about that.

At this point we do not want to move him. We would like to work with him to make sure he can be his best self. He has been a big cuddle big and continues to be. He really seemed sorry for his outburst and tried to sit next to Adair on the sofa.

Let’s connect on Sunday. I have a house full of people coming for Christmas dinner. We will watch him closely and crate him when guests arrive.

Janene Tompkins, CFP®️

[Pat Hairston]

On Dec 24, 2021, at 10:31 PM, Pat Hairston wrote:


Janene-

I am so very sorry this has happened.

I hope your daughter will be alright and has sought medical treatment. ARG understands this is reportable to Animal Control and Luke will likely need to be quarantined for 10 days, perhaps even at animal control.

My first suggestion is to crate him and keep him out of the activity. When not crated, I suggest he be leashed and kept with with you or Peter. Everyone, including you and Peter should not have your face near his face.

Was Luke overly exited during any of this that the excitement could have ramped up too much and resulted in his actions? Was this when your daughter first arrived or had she been there a while? Did she have food nearby or in her hand? Was there a lot of excitement, laughing, noise, etc? Trying to get a picture of the events surrounding the bite.

We were told he was mouthy, which could have resulted in this because he is large and strong. Not an excuse, just a statement.

In situations as this, I refer to the Ian Dunbar bite scale when assessing a situation like this. (
https://apdt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ian-dunbar-dog-bite-scale.pdf). Without seeing the wound, this may be considered a level 2 on this scale, particularly because of your daughters broken nose, which could have been caused by Luke’s forward momentum. With that, we (ARG) can engage a trainer to do a behavioral assessment of Luke and determine if we have a recoverable situation with training. I have someone in Raleigh that I will contact on Monday.

I am not sure I have someone I can move him to tomorrow or Sunday but I will do the best to get him some place else if that is what will make you most comfortable.

If you would like to call and talk in the morning I will be available.

Pat

[Pat Hairston]

12/24/2021

Janene Tompkins
Fri, Dec 24, 2021, 9:39 PM (9 days ago)
to me, Christina

Hi everyone,
Merry Christmas. We had a couple of not good incidents with Luke tonight. Our adult children came home to visit today. Luke bit my daughter on the face when she was petting him. A little while later she was talking to him and turn to walk away and he jumped up and tried to bite her arm. Both of these were unprovoked. He also attempted to bite my son’s foot when he was rubbing his belly with his foot. With that one, we think Daniel may have been too close to Luke’s neuter incision.

The attempts one our daughter are more concerning. The bite on my daughter’s face broke the skin and he hit her hard enough that she may have broken her nose.

This is the first time Luke has been anything but a gentleman. We are not sure what to think.

Any advice is most welcome.

Thanks,

Janene Tompkins, CFP®️

[Pat Hairston]

Foster to adopt by Janene and Peter Tompkins

[Pat Hairston]

Janene Tompkins
Tue, Dec 7, 2021, 2:20 PM
to me, Christina

I see Luke’s breeder was Judy Beitzel. My sweet June’s breeder got her dogs from Judy. I imagine Luke might be one of June’s cousins.

Janene Tompkins, CFP®️

On Dec 7, 2021, at 1:22 PM, Pat Hairston wrote:


Janene-

Here is the information we have. At least he had early vaccines and is microchipped.

The image of the rabies vaccine is on my phone and I will send that separate.

[Pat Hairston]

Airedale Rescue Group
3:45 PM (0 minutes ago)
to Markel, Airedale, bcc: Mary

Markel,

Airedale Rescue Group would like to thank you both for your interest in and love of Airedales.
We now understand that you would like to adopt a puppy to begin a breeding program. Airedale Rescue Group is committed to rescuing and rehoming unwanted Airedale and all dogs rehomed via our rescue are spayed or neutered and required to be by our adoption policy. ARG does not adopt individuals considering breeding dogs.

We recommend if you are considering breeding Airedale, you research the Airedale Terrier Club of America (ATCA), http://www.airedale.org/ to learn more and research for reputable breeders of this magnificent breed.

We wish you well in your search for an addition to your family.

Most Grateful,

Pat Hairston, 910-200-5890
Airedale Rescue Group of South Carolina
http://www.airedalerescuegroup.com
http://www.facebook.com/groups/airedalerescuegroup
Saving Airedales in the Southeast since 2000

[Pat Hairston]

1/2/2022: The application being closed. ARG will not adopt to someone who intends to start breeding.

Annecy Airedale
Sat, Jan 1, 7:59 PM (19 hours ago)
to me, Christina

Yes, great idea!!

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 6:26 PM Pat Hairston wrote:
Great idea Christina!

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 5:30 PM Christina Prange wrote:
A day in the life with Poppy!

Maybe refer to the ATCA website which has the breeders approved by Airedale club.
Christina Prange
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On Saturday, January 1, 2022, 4:57 PM, Annecy Airedale wrote:

lol, Pat!

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 4:55 PM Pat Hairston wrote:
🤣🤣 I can loan them a 3 yr old brat.

I will bust their bubble
tomorrow. I not in the mood today.

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 3:51 PM Annecy Airedale wrote:
Pat, yes, I probably didn’t make that as clear as I could have. He said: she wants a dog that can have puppies so I won’t be able to take Luda.
Lol, maybe before they try to breed an Aire-puppy, they should get an Airedale. That would probably change their minds 😂

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 3:13 PM Pat Hairston wrote:
Hi Mary-

Thanks. Oh, I thought they just wanted a puppy. If they want to breed than that is a no for us. They cannot adopt from ARG to start a breeding program. They can go purchase a puppy from someone and get breeding rights.

I am happy to let them know that.

Thanks. Pat

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 2:55 PM Annecy Airedale wrote:
Got ‘em, Pat!

What do we want to do with Markel given his wife wants to breed for puppies? Let him know as a rescue we cannot adopt out unspayed females/in neutered males?

m

[Pat Hairston]

1/2/2022 – Jade crossed the RB.

• This reply was modified 3 years, 10 months ago by Jackie Cash.

[Pat Hairston]

1/2/2021 – jADE HAS CROSSED THE RAINBOW BRIDGE

[Pat Hairston]

2020 Communications
Barbara Yager
4:18 PM (31 minutes ago)
to Jackie, Christina, me

From: Jackie Cash
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 4:50 PM
To: Christina Prange ; theairedale@gmail.com; hairstonpat@gmail.com
Subject: Re: 13 years ago we adopted Jack to Mark Jeanes Pinehurst NC

I talked to him, Christina. Nope, he adopted from ATRA previously. I asked him to apply online. He lives in NC.

Jackie Cash | 901-438-5782
http://www.airedalerescuegroup.com
Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/airedalerescuegroup/

On 07/30/2020 3:34 PM Christina Prange wrote:

I cannot find anything with this persons name in my emails – Jeanes.

AOL email – so embarrassing with an aol address to ‘young people’ but it works well for me!

Christina Prange
(919) 605-4563

—–Original Message—–
From: Barbara Yager To: Jackie Cash ; Pat Nowak Hairston ; Christina Prange
Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2020 4:26 pm
Subject: 13 years ago we adopted Jack to Mark Jeanes Pinehurst NC

There is no info on Mark in the forum or my emails. Jackie or Christina? He needs to fill out a new app anyway.

Mark left a message that he lost Jack in November and would like to adopt Duke. Could we give him a call. I believe Duke is listed on ATRA page here: https://www.aire-rescue.org/available-for-adoption/duke-0

Mark 910 986 2712

Thank you.

Bay

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Mark is at

Barbara Reese Yager
Airedale Rescue Group
http://www.airedalerescuegroup.com

theairedale@gmail.com
803.547.2829 home before 9PM Eastern
815.301.2959 Fax

Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/airedalerescuegroup/

[Pat Hairston]

12/30/21: Sent an email to Brooke and left a voice mail about Luda.

[Pat Hairston]

12/30/21: I took Mark’s application over the phone. He is a prior ARG adopter from 12+ years ago. He adopted Lucky and renamed him Jack. Jack crossed the RB about a year ago at 14 yrs old. Jack went everywhere with him that he could. He left him once in the vet boarding kennel and another time his sister took care of him.

Mark will send veterinary information. groomer and personal reference.

Jack taught obedience training for 20 years. He is sure there is nothing he cannot handle with Eli. Just reviewing with the team but my feeling is this is a yes!

[Pat Hairston]

12-30/21: Sent email about Luda. Calling to leave a message.

[Pat Hairston]

12/30/21: Declined Luda because they adopted a male poodle last week.

Moved to FOSTER at her request.

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