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My visit with the Broadwaters went well and I am quite comfortable recommending them. I would not trust their current fence 100% to hold an ADT, if he took a notion to wander, however we talked about that and M-B is thinking she will beat walking him on leash anyway. Given their experience with Great Danes I think they will do fine. The male Scottie, Churchill, was slightly reactive to Bella but manageable. Female Scottie, Victoria, absolutely loved Bella, though! M-P and Bret said they’d like to keep in touch and maybe we can set up a play date for Rowdy and Bella.
On Nov 27, 2011 12:20 PM, “Wendy Wenck” <wenckipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
BL:11/28 I called the Broadwaters and Wendy was still there. We chatted for a few minutes. Broadwaters have made arrangements with Cyndie, Rowdy’s caretaker to meet today in Asheville to hand over the leash.
Hi Laura Beth,
Thank you for looking into adopting a rescued Airedale. I apologize for not getting in touch sooner, but last week was a little hectic.
There are a number of things in your application of concern, which I will go over in a moment.
But first of all, we need the name and phone number of your landlord or property management company to verify what rules, if any, govern pets in the rental units.
I am going to list the issues you mentioned that concerned me:
*This will be the first dog you have had as an adult, and your first as a couple. Airedales are not recommended as a “starter” dog.
* Your knowledge of the breed appears to be online research and a personality test by your fiance. I have no idea what that means.
Am guessing it is something that attempts to match person with traits of the different breeds? Have you ever met an airedale in person? Or a terrier of any kind? Their personality and demeanor is very different from the breeds you grew up with.
* Your living situation has no fence. We certainly do not want or expect any airedale to be left outside alone, but a no-fence household has to be dedicated leash walkers, which means a brisk walk several times a day. If you are away from home 8 hours a day, that would not be possible. Do you plan to make arrangements for someone to come home during the day? Or is there a doggie day care in your area? 8 hours in a crate on a daily basis is not acceptable. Even when and if the dog is trustworthy to roam free in the home, a bored dog can get in trouble.
* Airedales are NOT hypo-allergenic, despite what is written about them. It is true they are lower shedders than the lab and golden your family has, but they do shed.
So, I suggest you and Wade sit down and think long and hard about what you want to do in terms of a dog. If I have misunderstood any of the above, please let me know, and we can make an appointment to talk about them on the phone.
I do not intend to be overly harsh or even necessarily outright rejecting you, but I am sure you understand that our primary mission is the care and safety of the airedale, and we do not want to make a placement that does not work out.
Barbara Lawson 518 208 4047
www. airedalerescuegroup.com
Follow us on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/airedalerescuegroup
Her reply:
Thank you for your time, but we have decided to wait on adopting a dog. Please disregard our application. We will hope get in touch with You when we are better equipped to properly care for an Airedale.
Thanks,
Laura beth
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Phone interview Tue 11/22.
On speaker phone, so both M-P and Bret could hear and speak.
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No airedale esperience, but do know the terrier attitude due to their 2 scotties M/F.
Were littermates as pups, now 6 years old. One of those accidental adoptions when they were on a mission trip.
It sounds like they have a large property 6+ acres, and several fenced areas for the dogs. At first I was a little concerned that M-P said twice they are very spoiled. It turns out that the scotties are not big on walking, but have a large fenced area where they romp all the time. Just as short-legged ones, not up for brisk walks which M-P likes to do. Bret has arthritis in both hips, so is only usually good for a half mile or so.
After we had talked for a half hour or so, and I asked for their street address for the home visitor.
127 Buteo Bridge Pittsboro NC 27312
and asked if they had any further questions.
M=P asked the following:
*Are aredales we have pure-bred? I said yes; we unfortunately do not have the resources to place mixes.They do not come with AKC papers, but after a while you can tell. Bret chimed in that he understood that.
*Are they house-broken? We have some very nice oriental rugs. I said generally they are, but for any dog, no matter the age, there will likely be an adjustment period. Once your have established a regular routine, and it is clear what the boundaries are, (like up on furniture is or is not allowed) generally things go smoothly.
. I told them I would look to see who might be able to make a home visit..
11/23 Wendy Wenck, at Christina’s suggestion, responded immediately, and I will send her the contact information and my notes.
Christine,
This is wonderful news, and I know Christina feels the same.
We consider it a good result when a family decides surrendering their airedale to rescue is best for all, and then reconsiders
and makes some changes and commitment to keeping who really is a member of the family, too.
I also understand the guilt part, but life changes and grows and we all change with it. Your daughter will have some adjusting to do, also. She and Ringo can confer and ponder about the new funny smelling puppy that is getting so much attention.
There is probably a lot of good advice out on “the net” with suggestions on the kind of integration you are facing. It can be a grand adventure.
Just remember if, at any time, you change your mind about Ringo, you can come to us again.
My personal experience says airedales are extremely adaptable. As long as they know they are safe and loved, they live in the moment, and don’t hold grudges when rules change. Once they get it 🙂
Best wishes for you and your family in the coming months.
Barbara Lawson 518 208 4047
www. airedalerescuegroup.com
Follow us on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/airedalerescuegroup
From: crkraft@ua.edu
To: mcprange@aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:48:32 -0600
Subject: RE: Ringo
Christina and Barbara,
My husband and I discussed it for the millionth time tonight and we’ve decided that we are going to keep Ringo. We think that it may be hard on him for the next few months with the new baby, but that he will be happier with us than without us. As I said, he is still getting walks and playtime, he just isn’t involved in every single activity in the house anymore. Once my husband and I get past feeling guilty about that and setting some new boundaries, we both still think that our home will be the best one for him.
I apologize for all the work you both have done for us with no placement. Thank you again for all your efforts.
Best,
Christine
Tim replied, thanked me for my honesty, and asked what breed I would recommend for their family. I am going to tell him to look a black or yellow labs or goldens.
Barbara,
Yes, I understand that it may be difficult to place Ringo, but I want him to go to someone who will take great care of him. I had not actually spoken to Deb, but via email she told me she does not walk her dogs. When I said that I was concerned about that for Ringo, she wrote me back and blew me off saying that she didn’t think that was important. I would like Ringo to go somewhere similar to the environment he has lived in. He is used to getting one to two walks a day, plus playtime. I know that may be difficult to find, but I will keep him and keep trying if we can’t find someplace better.
Thank you for your work. I appreciate that you are doing this on a volunteer basis and I am sure that you are busy with other things in your life.
Best,
Christine
Christine R. Kraft, Ph.D.
Analyst
Office of Institutional Research and Assessment
321 East Annex, Box 870166
The University of Alabama
Tuscaloosa, AL 35487-0166
205.348.7205, crkraft@ua.edu
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From: Barbara Lawson [barbaral51@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 5:20 AM
To: Kraft, Christine
Cc: Christina Prange
Subject: Ringo
Good morning, Christine.
Christina told me you wrote her yesterday to say you do not want to place Ringo with Deb Jellett. I guess it is based on your email exchanges, as I don’t believe you have actually spoken.
I was sorry to hear that, but we don’t want anyone involved to feel uncomfortable or uncertain.
ARG is glad to continue to work with you to find a good home for him. We have good applicants all the time, but placing an older dog is a little more of a challenge.
I am one of the volunteers who works directly with applicants, so will continue to keep in touch when a possible candidate comes along. Thank you for agreeing to keep him in your care for the time being.
Barbara Lawson 518 208 4047
www. airedalerescuegroup.com
11/21Muriel Donald told me she is planning a home visit as Deb had moved since she adopted Sissy about three years ago.
I told her a possibility for her had not worked out. She replied Deb is not a particular warm people person but takes good care of her dogs. Muriel does have a couple in care that might be a match. -BL
Hi Tim.
Thank you for thinking about adding a rescued Airedale to your family.
However, I have some serious reservations concerning an airedale as the right one for your family at this time.
So I will be very blunt and direct on the issues that concern me. I do not intend to be harsh or immediately dismissive, only honest.
* an airedale as a first family dog is likely not a good choice.
* the age of your child is younger than we usually recommend for an airedale; because ‘dales are larger dogs and are usually fine with young children, they can be inadvertently clumsy. Our general rule of thumb is a child 6 years or older is likely to be best, because at that age they can hold their own a little better, and learn kind and firm commands.
*airedales are rare who tolerate cats, and chickens are pretty much only seen as prey, no matter how securely separated.
* you and your wife work out of the home full time. That is not unusual these days, but staying alone in the house will result in mischief, is my experience. Outside alone is not acceptable. Doggie day care, dog walker, etc. is how many families deal with that.
I have little doubt you can and will provide a happy, safe, and happy home for a family dog, but I really really do not think an airedale is the one. I strongly recommend you think about visiting your local shelter, getting a feel for the many great dogs available, even an older one, who would thrive with your family.
Again, I am only being honest and straightforward with you. If you have questions about anything I have stated, I would be glad to continue contact.
Barbara Lawson 518 208 4047
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I will on vacation from November 19th returning on November 28th.
I apologize for the inconvienece and will respond as soon as I can.
Hi Barbara,
This coming up week is not very good for us. But I will contact you again at the end of it to set a firm time.
Yes Victoria and Churchill are littermates and yes we adopted them directly from the kennel when they were 8 weeks old —-meaning we went to the kennel, visited, met their mom and dad etc. Our white Scottie, Reginald, had lost his brother about 3 yrs prior to their arrival so they grew up with Reggie. Annie was about 3 or 4 when they arrived. Annie thought she was their ‘nanny’ and Reggie taught them to be civilized.
I do look forward to meeting you and will contact you asap.
Thank you, m-p
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Barbara Lawson <barbaral51@hotmail.com> wrote:
Good morning, M-P!
Thank you for considering adding a rescued Airedale to your terrier pack.
We always like hearing from people who know something of the terrier ‘tude, although of course every breed and certainly every dog is different.
Were Victoria and Churchill (great names of all your dogs!) littermates? Have you had them since puppies? I mainly ask because when two dogs have been together all their lives, they sometimes are so bonded it is a challenge to introduce a new kid. But if they were fine with your Dane, they must be used to other dogs, and big ones, at that.
It is certainly true that airedales need a good deal of exercise; a bored one can get in trouble, a tired one is an aire-angel. At least that is my experience.
Please let me know a good time to call you. I know this coming week is busy for a lot of people. I will be at home without a lot of activity, so I can be available most any time at your convenience.
I look forward to speaking to you and Bret.
Barbara Lawson 518 208 4047
www. airedalerescuegroup.com
Follow us on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/airedalerescuegroup
Hi Deb and Christine,
Barbara Lawson here, an ARG volunteer who works closely with Christina Prange.
I am introducing you two via email so that you can communicate about Ringo.
Christine Kraft is the surrendering owner and lives in Tuscaloosa.
Deb Jellett is a returning, approved adopter, who lives in Daphne AL, near Mobile. She has one of our Airedales and recently adopted a mixed breed dog from a local shelter. I have told her what we know about Ringo and she is very interested in him.
Her only constraint is that her new dog has only been with her for a couple of weeks, and is having some settling in issues, so she wants to be sure they are on an even keel before moving forward.
Ringo is not posted yet on our website as the site savvy folks are both traveling this week, but I did sent Deb details and photos.
I invite you to get together via email and arrange a time to speak. I know with Thanksgiving coming up, a lot of people travel or have a house full of guests, but I hope you can get acquainted.
Please let me know what you think. If it progresses to the point that you would like to meet in person with Ringo, you have ARG’s permission to do so. Just keep us informed. Perhaps after Thanksgiving?
I haven’t included each of your phone numbers, as that is up to you to exchange.
Thank you both, and perhaps this will all work out well for everyone.
Barbara Lawson 518 208 4047
www. airedalerescuegroup.com
11/18: Deb and Christine Kraft have been in touch via email and plan to speak soon about Ringo.
Original Message
From: Christina Prange <mcprange@aol.com>
To: tillielover24 <tillielover24@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 16, 2011 9:07 pm
Subject: Re: Izzy
Hi Beth- of course I remember you and Aine, now Phoebe. How are you two? i think that I told you, I still hold you as a model for someone who worked with her new rescued ‘dale and achieving such a great trust and relationship. You two are amazing and that graduation picture is priceless.
Izzy’s owner is trying to keep her. A couple of reasons. She found a growth on Izzy that required removal and biopsy and she is also trying something new to keep Izzy in the yard.
So, right now, I think Izzy is on hold. She is such a cutie. How is Phoebe doing with other dogs?
Christina Prange
(919) 605-4563
airedalerescuegroup.com
Hi Barbara,
Hope all is going well for you and yours. I called Nina tonight and just wanted to touch base with you. She is a busy lady and we decided it would be more convenient for me to call again after Thanksgiving; so that is the plan right now. Very interesting lady and seems she has worn many hats. Can’t wait to meet her in person.
I will let you know more when I do. In the interim, I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Take care,
Trina
At Sandy Sutton’s and progressing well. She told Christina it is so rewarding to see her develop and gain confidence. And obedience!
Christina took Skye to Asheville for Polly and Mike to meet. The next morning they asked to take her home.
Early hours report good.
Renamed Lucy.
Hi Victoria,
Thank you for looking into adopting a rescued airedale to add to your family.
I am glad you have done some research. Have you ever met an airedale?
It is also good that you plan to fortify your fencing. It is true that some airedales are real escape artists, no matter the size of their area. In fact, we are in the process of looking for a new home for one of our females (about 5-6) who consistently finds a way out of her fenced area. She has been living with other airedales in an experienced home.
One concern I have is the age of your child. Although airedales are generally good with children, they are large dogs and can be inadvertently clumsy. A toddler could be in danger. We generally recommend children in the home be at least six. However, we can talk about that.
The next step in our process is a phone interview. Please let me know a good time to call you. I am most available after 2:00 pm weekdays and often on the weekends.
Barbara Lawson 518 208 4047
www. airedalerescuegroup.com
Follow us on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/airedalerescuegroup
11/22. No response to above initial email. Will check once more then move.
