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Good morning everyone,
I spoke with this gal and I’m a bit on the fence, but definitely leaning to one side.
She has 3 roommates. She owns the home. Per Google Earth there is what appears to be an abandoned car in the backyard and a shed/garage with door hanging open. There is a stockade fence with what looks like a pile of dirt up against it…to me it looks like a dog could go over at this point. She says she is fenced with a combination of chain link and wood, but some of it doesn’t show up on Google Earth (admittedly sometimes images are fuzzy and time sensitive).
She said in her application that if no one was home the dog would be left outside. I told her this was a “no go.”
Her sister lives a few minutes away and would take care of the dog if Reyna needed to be out of town.
Her work is a combination of home and having to go into the office and that schedule changes weekly.
She said that her boyfriend’s family has had 3 Airedales…1 rescue and 2 they got as puppies. This is her exposure to the breed. She admits to also looking at the Doberman and GSP.
She wants a younger dog so that she can have it “for years and years.”
She asked me what she should be prepared for in a rescue. I discussed at length with her the potential needs of a re-homed ‘dale and that the goal is to place the dog in the perfect home.
My gut feeling is that she needs to provide a more stable environment for a dog. 3 other people coming and going who say “they love dogs” but don’t necessarily have buy in. I just see a lot of inconsistency here.Let me know what you all think and I will pursue this further if you want.
Thanks!
KellyTy,
Airedale Rescue Group would like to thank you for your interest in and love of Airedales.
After reviewing your application and your preferences, we have come to the unfortunate conclusion that we don’t have any Airedales that would be a good fit for you.
As you are most likely aware, Airedales and most dogs for that matter, come into rescue because of troublesome issues. These issues are exacerbated through the surrender and re-homing/adoption process. We see a regression in training/learning, an escalation in aggression issues if present and acting out just to name a few. We rarely have a perfect Airedale…something we’d all like!!
Stability, consistency and time are just a few of the ingredients in a successful rescue recipe. Our goal at ARG is to find the best, most nurturing and permanent home for our Airedales.
We wish you well in your search for an addition to your family. We are just unable to help at this time.
Sincerely,
Kelly Imbody, ARGSpoke with applicant…less than impressed. Works 8 hours/day. “Hopes he doesn’t get transferred” as this would be reason to give up dog. States “you never know…it’s a job, you know.” Grew up with an Airedale. Is also considering Welsh Terrier but may have too much energy. This guy is a no go as far as I’m concerned…can’t figure out why he wants a dog. Will send gentle rejection letter.
Rec’d. application to vet on April 22, 2022.
Sent multiple texts, emails and left voice messages re: need to review app.
Will cease and desist unless applicant reaches out.Rec’d. an email/Facebook message from Jennifer and they would like to foster as well. I think they would be great just based on their experience with Savannah (see previous note above). Will update their profile to reflect willingness to foster.
The Andrews have had 3 ‘dales in the past. Most recent is a rescue out of Savannah who was poorly treated, almost hairless and was fed by throwing her scraps of food. She was 4 years old when they rescued her, wanted the brother as well but the man wouldn’t give him up. By the end of her time with the Andrews at age 12, Jenny said they “got her back to about 90%” She was still a little skittish with new people etc. It was a very sad story. They are still in the same home, have no sex preference, are fenced and sound wonderful. Christina rightlfully so has deferred the home visit. They are moved to approved.
4/3/2022 Phone interview:
The applicant has lived in SC for “about 2 years.” I asked where he lived prior and he stated MA. Asked what brought him to SC from MA…”warmer, cheaper and I’m, how should I say it, separating from the military.”
He purchased the home in November and rents out rooms to “friends”. He states he is gone about 5 hours per day. Two other renters work from home and 2 are in the military. So, there are 5 people in the home… a friend and his fiancé, two work friends and himself.
The neighborhood per Google Earth is suburban. There are sidewalks. There appears as if there would be little traffic…just the local residents. The back yard is fenced and there is a door directly into the yard from the house.
As a child he had a Golden Retriever mix and a Gordon Setter mix. He said his father had an Airedale as a child. He is also looking at Irish Wolfhounds and Yorkshire Terriers (quite a disparity!) I asked him why an Airedale and he again stated that his Dad had one as a child and he can remember his Dad telling him about the dog and one of his roommates is allergic to dogs.
Patrick seemed nice enough, but I have misgivings about putting a ‘dale in that environment. Patrick will be the caregiver. There are 4 other people who don’t necessarily have “buy in” when it comes to the responsibilities involved in taking care of a dog. Especially one from rescue that may have some issues. I see consistency and stability in the environment as a major hurdle. He also doesn’t really seem to know what he wants…he vacillates from a giant breed to a miniature.Personal reference: has known applicant since they were 15 years old. Personal ref. still lives in MA and has not been to/seen applicant’s home. He feels applicant would be a “good owner.” Explained that his family had a “fluffy tailed” dog when they were growing up but that he doesn’t remember what kind it was…”it was medium sized.”
I explained to Patrick that we currently don’t have any dogs available and that since he is also interested in the Irish Wolfhound and the Yorkie, that he should pursue those.
Dear Patrick,
Airedale Rescue Group would like to thank you for your interest in and love of Airedales.
After reviewing your application and your preferences, we have come to the unfortunate conclusion that we don’t have any Airedales that would be a good fit for you.
As you are most likely aware, Airedales and most dogs for that matter, come into rescue because of troublesome issues. These issues are exacerbated through the surrender and re-homing/adoption process. We see a regression in training/learning, an escalation in aggression issues if present and acting out just to name a few. We rarely have a perfect Airedale…something we’d all like!!
Stability and consistency are just a couple of ingredients in a successful rescue recipe. Our goal at ARG is to find the best, most nurturing and permanent home for our Airedales.
We wish you well in your search for an addition to your family. We are just unable to help at this time.
Sincerely,
Kelly Imbody, ARGYes, i say defer the HV based on prior adoption
Good that you interviewed her bc we need to know her current situation – which includes the cat!
I would tell her that ARG considerers her approved and we’ll be looking for a dale that fits her criteria.
I did not realize 2 ‘dales from NCAR!
Christina Prange
919-605-4563—–Original Message—–
From: Kelly
To: Christina Prange
Sent: Wed, Mar 23, 2022 12:24 pm
Subject: Re: potential HV folks
Yes. She adopted 2 ‘dales from NCAR. She sounds great! Yes. Cat will be an issue. Should I defer the HV?Airedale Rescue Group
Phone Interview: Beth Stafford
March 22, 2022Beth has had 3 Airedales over the past 30+ years. The first she got at the age of 6 weeks from a breeder in NC. This ‘dale lived to be 12. The 2nd and 3rd ‘dales she got from NCAR, the precursor to ARG I assume since that was before my time with ARG. Airedale #2 was 16 mos. old when she rescued her and came from Mebane, NC and lived to be 13 ½. The 3rd she got from the DC area rescue at the age of 11 mos. She had moderated bilateral hip dysplasia and seizures that Beth observed on her first night with the dog. After vetting the ‘dale it was determined that in all likelihood this ‘dale had had seizures from the get go and just was neglected/ignored by previous owner. She lived to 8 ½ years.
Beth lives with her elderly mother and personal reference relates that she appears to be fine…not frail etc. Beth when asked if her mother would be alright with a big dog in the house said that she’s more worried about the cat than her mother!! Per Google earth her home appears to be situated in a suburban/rural area. She has 2 ½ acres. Back yard is fenced. There are woods on one side of her and along the back of her property. She states that she lives on a dirt road. She has family at the end of the road and they have 12 ½ acres so she has plenty of places to walk/play with a dog. She states that she usually walked about 3 times/day varying time/distance.
She has neighbors with small children that visit often. She has a cat so the ‘dale needs to be cat friendly. Beth is an artist working from home. She desperately misses having an Airedale and states this is the longest she has been without one. She has consulted with a holistic vet in the past as well as a vet that specialized in accupunture.
I explained the need for a home visit and encouraged her to keep an eye on our website and our Facebook page.Vet: All dogs were kept up to date on vaccinations. Same for the cat. No red flags on the applicants chart.
Personal reference: Has known applicant for about 12 years. Knew both Airedales. Describes them as well behaved, well mannered. Never saw an issue with the dogs. It should be noted that personal reference just retired from Pet Smart as a regional pet trainer. Personal reference has 2 dogs currently…used to have 5. Currently has 2 pit bull terriers. Has had labs, Aussie and Aussie-Shepard mix as well. Describes Beth’s mother as steady. Not frail. Should be able to tolerate large dog in the home.
Airedale Rescue Group would like to thank you for your interest in and love of Airedales.
After reviewing your application and your preferences, we have come to the unfortunate conclusion that we don’t have any Airedales that would be a good fit for you.
As you are most likely aware, Airedales and most dogs for that matter, come into rescue because of troublesome issues. These issues are exacerbated through the surrender and re-homing/adoption process. We see a regression in training/learning, an escalation in aggression issues if present and acting out just to name a few. We rarely have a perfect Airedale…something we’d all like!!
Stability and consistency are just a couple of ingredients in a successful rescue recipe. Our goal at ARG is to find the best, most nurturing and permanent home for our Airedales.
We wish you well in your search for an addition to your family. We are just unable to help at this time.
Sincerely,
Kelly Imbody, ARGI glanced through the application and saw the points you mention and the inconsistency with a fence but it is an apartment.
I would decline without gout further.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 6:01 PM Kelly Imbody
Hi Ladies,
Pat sent me an app. from a gal in Charlotte. I can’t find her on Facebook ( which is no big deal). When I Google earthed her I came up with a vacant lot. She omitted from her app. question A4 which asks for the name of her landlord/rental agent. She responded N/A when asked for a reference. She’s 25. Lives alone. Works. Initially stated in one section that she’ll be gone 5 hours, then in another section it is 5-6. My experience as a nurse when interviewing patients pre-operatively is that they under report the number of cigarettes they smoke per day and/or how much alcohol they drink per day. I’m thinking this can be extrapolated out to how many hours per day a ‘dale would be left alone. Lastly, the only dog she’s ever had any interaction with is a pit. I have a bad feeling in my gut. I think I should send her my “gentle rejection” letter. But I will do what you all think. I have not as yet contacted her.
Thanks everyone.
Kel(continued from above HV done by Ann Deletski)
Bottom photo:
I took this photo while standing in the same location as the top photo but facing the opposite direction.This home is in a lovely gated community surrounded by farms so the area has a rural feel to it. It is in the foothills of the Appalachians and is therefore quite hilly and forested. There are only 2 homes with year around residents at this time so there is very little traffic. Their home has a small stream running through their front yard between the house and the gravel road.
Suzanne and David currently have a Welsh terrier named Sadie. She looks like she weighs about 20 pounds and I was told she’s 12 years old. She’s actually quite timid and is the sweetest Welsh terrier I have ever seen. I did not attempt to approach her because she was afraid and had her tail down to cover her butt.
I had my Airedale, Ruby, in my Jeep and David asked if they could meet her. I said yes but informed them that I had her for less than two months and that I did not know if she would interact well with Sadie or not. Suzanne held Sadie in her arms but Suzanne was very nervous about the meeting because she had heard that two females don’t usually get along with each other. For the first couple of minutes Ruby seemed enthusiastic about meeting Sadie and Sadie was OK with Ruby smelling her while Suzanne held Sadie but I could feel the tension that Suzanne had because these dogs are both females. Soon after I felt this tension Ruby quietly growled, so I believe Suzanne and David definitely need to have a male dog. Dogs always pick up on the concerns of the people around them.
As you know Suzanne and David had 2 Welsh terriers and their male died sometime within the last 10 months. They believe Sadie would love to have a new brother. Sadie is a sweet girl and I could tell that she is truly loved. They have rescued Welsh terriers in the past and understand what is involved with rescuing a dog.
Sadie has free run of the house and can go into the fenced area through a dog door off of the great room and they also have a lovely porch off of their bedroom that wraps around one side of the house and the dog has access to that space also. Because they have re-homed dogs in the past I did not go over explaining that rehoming a dog is stressful for the dog and that accidents can be expected. I felt Suzanne and David would have been insulted if I had that conversation.
David was extremely excited about meeting my Ruby and told me three or four times how beautiful she is. They have owned one Airedale in the past and currently have one Welsh terrier but I believe they have owned three Welsh terriers past and present. I believe that the care of their next dog will be given by both David and Suzanne and I believe David definitely wants an Airedale and Suzanne is more enthusiastic about getting a Welsh terrier than an Airedale although either is acceptable to her.
David and Suzanne Donovan are lovely people who love their dear Sadie.
I approve Suzanne and David as applicants for Airedale Rescue.
Anne Daletski
March 12, 2022CamanoART@yahoo.con
(828) 450-4962Yesterday I went to the home of Susan and David Donovan for a home evaluation.
Address: 168 Golden Creek Trail
Union Mills, NC 29167
Phone: (312) 618-4302
Email: sdonovan3366@gmail.comThey have a large home of about 2600 ft.² with a very large open kitchen, dining and living great room area. The home interior is very contemporary and has many hard surfaces that are easy to clean. I did not see any carpeting anywhere which is great when you live in an area with the red clay of North Carolina. I am not sure what the flooring material was but it almost looked like marble. The home was absolutely immaculate.
I took a photo of the fenced area that is accessed directly from the home through a dog door. I think this is probably 10 to 12 feet wide and it is as long as their house which is probably 50 feet or more.I explained to Suzanne and David that being a larger dog, an Airedale would need more exercise than their fenced area offers and asked them if they would be willing to take their dog for long walks daily. They said yes they would and described the kind of walk they would take their Airedale on each day and it sounded to me like it would be at least 1 mile and you can see from the photo that this includes walking up and down hills. David especially sounded very excited about the prospect of being able to take his Airedale for a walk every day. He told me where he works (https://www.rutherfordcountync.gov/departments/airport_dept/index.php ). I am familiar with the location. His part-time job is only about 15 minutes from their home so it is realistic for him to have the time to take the dog for a long walk most days.
