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Background: on September 25, 2019:
Jill Langlois < jlanglois10@hotmail.com> wrote:Hello,
I am reaching out on behalf of my mother, Debbie Myers, as she has a 1 yr old male Airedale (Albe) that she needs to look at re-homing due to her work schedule and her also moving. She is not able to give him the time and attention that he deserves and needs. Would you be able to contact her regarding how to do this and how your rescue group works as she very much loves the dog and does not want him to put down or to go to neglectful home?
Her phone number is 919-817-5541 and her email is DebMyers328@gmail.com.
Thank you,
Jill Langlois09/25/19:
I spoke o Deb Myers, the woman who owns this boy. He’s 16 months old, intact, and she does not want him to go back to the breeder in Myrtle Beach. Their place was dirty, the dogs were dirty, the puppies were dirty. She’s having a hard time with this and had tried to sell him on FB previously but had only one real potential, but the person was going to have to have radiation bc a cancer had come back. She said at one point, maybe she should contact them. We talked 35 minutes with me explaining our process and her telling me what a great dog he was. She is a private care nurse and works 5 days a week, 8-10 hours a day, and it just isn’t fair to him.He’s had private training and knows when the E-COLLAR IS ON to come, but if it’s not, he might come. He’ll sit, he’s smart. The only bad habit is jumping on people when they come to the home. He’s a snuggler. Loves other dogs in the dog park.
She’s supposed to fill out the form and make an appointment to have him neutered. She said it may take a couple of days.
We should have no problem whatsoever placing a good 16-mo-old boy. In fact, Mandy Dugan told me yesterday she’s looking for a male, about 2 years old, good with children. I don’t know about him with kids, but we will soon.
11/04/19: Spoke to Joey Corns with Overwatch K9 Training and he will do a consult with Jazzy and see what he thinks. Gave him Jazzy’s history as Klaina and then with Bay. Stew is cooperating of course.
11/02/19: Stew & Joan drove to Ft. Mill and adopted Jazzy. First reports are great. She rode well on the way home in the backseat with Joan.
11/04/19: Stew texted and said she lunges after other dogs and Joan had a hard time handling her last night. Stew says they’ll need training.11/01/19: Convo with Tyson, the trainer. I liked him. His description of Nena:
Honestly a very very good dog; single dog environment with substantial owner. Needs someone to tell her what to do. She is wonderful. Food – resource guarding – gets snappy with food, but as long as she’s fed alone, no problem. The off-the-record version – seeking food Welshie using play and treats. Nena lashed out and it was a scratch gone wrong. Don’t correct growling to get attention. Take away the stimulus the reward – if she growls they ignore her. She goes to her “away” place. In a minute or two she comes out and all is fine.With other dogs, she plays appropriately if someone is there to supervise. She’s used to playing with little dogs. His dogs — all between 50 and 70 lbs — will walk away if she plays too rough.
Slowly socialize with other dog if in the home. Start on opposite sides of the house, then slowly introduce them.
I asked if he thought Phil & Becky are a bit too over cautious with her – if they worry too much – if they are hyper. He said absolutely. A laid-back home/owner who knows how to stay in charge will be great. As for kids, 10 or up will probably be fine.
11/01/19: Called Tyson, trainer, and he asked to call him back.
Called vet Dr Redden and left voice mail for her to call back.10/31/19: I had a long conversation last night with Phil & Becky about Nena. She has a history of anxiety and reactivity including resource guarding — food, toys, attention. They got her when she was 4 weeks old. She was a gift from a relative but was to be returned to the breeder for another 4 weeks. She was obviously not healthy so they took her to a vet and she had worms, fleas, and a skin infection. They did not return her; they bottle-fed her, got her healthy, and kept her.
10/30/19: Although we turned down Allen for adoption because his Airedale would live outside, he has continued to send me messages about his Airedale, Winston, who he got as a put. The latest message today was that Winston will be 2 in December. Allen is not asking to adopt, he’s just keeping in touch and always asks how I’m doing and Hawkeye. He’s just a good ol’ country boy who loves his dogs. He also has a boxer.
Interview 10-27-19:
Dawn is an RN-administrator and works 5 days a week, but will be retiring the first week of December. Husband is retired and home all day, and spends most of his time outside — working in the yard or in his huge shop or walking in the woods. They have an electronic fence and have trained their dogs to that. I asked if one had ever breached the fence; yes a couple of times, then he wouldn’t come back in. We talked about that a long time but she said the dogs are never outside alone. If she and/or her husband are outside, the dogs are with them. I told her we must have a commitment that the Airedale would never be left unattended. She said that was fine.Her last dog dog died in May a year ago. He was a large mix — maybe some great dane, maybe some Rottweiler — they didn’t know. He was a wonderful, stubborn dog. He breached the fence then wouldn’t come back inside, so they never left him alone in the yard after that. They have Never had Airedales. Husband has been reading up on them. I recommended they see the Animal Planet video of Airedales on Dogs 101. They want a female – one that gets relatively big and he read that they’re loyal and good-natured and protective and don’t shed. I talked to her about their wiry coat and how it attracts and holds everything.
Son has a mix bull dog – About 70 lbs. Not aggressive. Very playful. Neutered.
They have 2 wireless fences that cover about 1/2 acre… dog can circle house and yard.
Describe a typical week day and weekend day Husband retired and she is getting ready. First week of December. Nurse administration in hospital. She works full time and he is home. Their house on 12 acres, lots of woods, house and guest house and pool house. Another covered area– bbq pit under roof, and there is a gigantic workshop. Pool is Enclosed. No dogs in the pool because they have a vinyl liner and none of their dogs can go in. They’d sit outside and the dogs sit with them beside the pool.
Tell me about the obedience classes. Her last dog – 2 different trainers. Dog showed up at 18 months old. Don’t know what he was. Big stubborn dog. 1 trainer came to house and worked with him, sit stay very basic stuff. After a year another trainer came to the house and took Beau to his house to work with him. 80 lbs. Really didn’t want him to jump on anyone. The trainer taught him to not jump.
Her mom – 95 years old – has her own apartment in their basement. She still comes up and down the stairs and is in good health. But, she doesn’t want a dog that is so rambunctious that it would jump on her and knock her down.
Dawn and husband lover to walk through the woods and hike. Their daughter lives in Vermont and they visit about 4 x a year with a 4-year-old and 2-year-old. They will travel and take their dog with them to Vermont. Daughter has a Norwegian Forest Cat who rules the house.
Their last dog, Beau, wanted to sleep outside at night, so they had a crate on porch. He also had a heated/air conditioned dog house if he wanted it. The porch is enclosed with a fence around it. I explained that their Airedale would have to sleep inside and never be left outside when they were gone or asleep. She said that’s what they’d prefer — they want the dog in the house.
Where will the dog stay during the day? In and out.. with Roger primarily
The only place in the house where the dog will not be allowed is the two guestrooms with bathrooms. They keep that back hallway closed off with French doors. Everywhere else is open and the dogs are allowed throughout the house.
Also, the dogs were not allowed in the basement without her or Roger because they didn’t want them alone with her mother.They had 2 dogs killed by hunters AFTER the end of deer season – separate incidents. One dragged himself all the way home. That was years ago and they installed the electronic fences after that.
All in all, I liked her. It may be difficult to find a home visit where they are.
10/29/19: Stew & Joan have helped ARG with numerous home visits and transports. They are the kind of people who never say no. Their sweet Maddie who was nearly 13 died on October 8, 2019.
10/29/19: Stew & Joan Tarkington will adopt Jazzy. Stew will drive to Barbara Yager’s to pick up Jazzy on Sat., Nov. 2nd.
Yay!
10-15-19 from Bay:
Right I think Andrea’s ego is all about her being able to control any dog off leash.
And thus the return as the dog made a fool of her in front of the airedale club in clt where she is their unofficial trainer.Jazzy (we need a new name) is prey driven which after seeing that with your small dog AND having to give her away, having Dr Murray consult with you, seeing prey drive in your back yard, knowing you were taking the dog to a place where she knew the welsh was and previously charged the welsh …etc etc.
Jazzy is certainly prey driven. She took a hard look at dixie doodle this am. Not yesterday. But DD gives off no negative vibe. so nothing but a stare. I do think she is not safe with small dogs or varmints. I would not put her in a home with crawling or toddler babies, just because. Although she has been in the crate with everyone around her or in the study alone, I will work her up to the yard, then Bishop and see what we have.
I did look all over the approved and neutral people and don’t see one who I think could fit her. I will write up a description for us and that you can share with the FL VA PA folks in case they are interested,
She is very pretty and small or course very well trained as long as off leash is not your expectation.don’t know that she needs training as much as parents with a back yard and second playful but laid back dog, not necessarily airedale
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I have had her in the yard and farm walks – she is loose in the study now, She is good on a leash MY problem is she walks on the left and I cant.
So I have her walking in front of me.I have not have tried out her training. I have a cold and am mostly low energy. L
I guess let me get a better handle on her. Right now I am thinking bad placement; wrong home.
10-18-19 She played with Bishop, the pup, and all was well.
10-21-19 from Bay:
This girl is a real charmer. Well behaved on walks. Sweet kissy face and so well trained. She has met and played with Bishop and met Cherry Berry (older female). No aggression face to face. No issues with anything so far. I am beginning to wonder if the owner’s tightly wound personality got her there. She can hunt – crouches down and crawls like a cat or points – – but hasn’t gone after trails of bunnies, etc on the farm. My dales point at deer and will take a bird if in the house – don’t ask J . I still say no little doggies, cats, ferrets etc. but she is very correct – beautiful and would be a special dog for someone who we love. J10/15/19: Offered to Mandy Dugan but she has very young nieces and nephews and he wouldn’t work with them.
10/18/19: Dash (NOW NASH) was adopted by Pat & Michael Beach and as of 10/21/19, good reports. He pulls badly on leash, but Pat is using a gentle leader and he does much better. He’s very much attracted to the deer that are always around and to the ponds, which have ALLIGATORS. He wants to go in the ponds, but she can’t let him. He and Lucky are getting along fine, as are he and the cats. One cat stays perched up high, the other walked beside him yesterday! The Beach’s have an elevator for their house on pilings that goes from their 3rd floor to the ground/garage level and he already knows that the elevator is great! Wonderful couple.
10/18/19: Mary Walker of Claddagh Boarding met Pat & Michael Beach in Dublin, GA at a Visitor’s Center right behind Zaxby’s (perfect meeting spot) and delivered Dash to them.
10/21/19: Sent contract!
10/16/19: Ziggy belonged to Laura’s brother, Daniel, who is in rehab and will go into transitional living, so he had to give up both of his Airedales. She is keeping Zappa, a 10-year-old male because he’s so easy going and calm. She has 4 children, ages 20 months to 7 years, so she has her hands full. Six months ago, Ziggy went to foster with a co-worker of Laura’s who has 4-5 kids also and lots of kids coming over. Unfortunately, Ziggy and the kids were outside and a neighbor girl was running around and screaming and tried to ride Ziggy. He turned and nipped at her ankle. You could see the streak and it bruised later, but no blood, no puncture. No medical attention (foster dad is medical professional), no animal control involved. Still, I would not put him with children younger than, say, 10 years old. They really like him and, in fact, they have been training him as a therapy dog!! (Find out more about that; Laura said she thinks he may be certified.) Regardless, the mother wants the dog gone. He was supposed to be just a foster anyway.
I asked Laura if they had considered neutering him and she said they had but just hadn’t gotten to it. I asked if they had considered contacting the breeder. She hadn’t. Told her the breeder will often take back an intact dog. She doesn’t know who the breeder is, but believes it is someone in Delaware — the same place Zappa came from — but she’s not sure. He lived with her mother and brother in Birmingham, so returning the dog to the breeder would not be realistic.
They will take care of neutering him and bringing him up to date on any vaccines, testing that he needs. We now have medical records and he appears to be up to date on everything. I’ve asked her to also have a microchip implanted (ARG will pay for that) and start on HW ad f/t preventative.
I asked about him running away – the mom in Birmingham had an electronic fence that Zappa respected, but occasionally if the battery went down or something, Ziggy would run and didn’t come back on his own. (I don’t know if he was outside most of the time.)
He went to a board and train facility but she doesn’t know if they used an electronic collar on him. She says he’s a barker — especially when he goes into his crate at first, when he gets excited, when he is playing, when someone comes to the door.
He sounds like a typical 3-4 year old Airedale who just needs a playmate and no young children and NO CATS.
