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07-18 thru 07-20-2020. Zeke bit Tina on the arm when she tried to move him off the couch. No punctures, but he did bite and hold her arm. He has growled and snapped at Chris over a toy and over a bag of cough drops (unopened; he stole them from Chris’ briefcase). Chris & I texted back and forth a long time Saturday about training methods and trainers. I sent him the link to ccpdt.org for positive-reinforcement trainers and cautioned him against using any kind of zap collar. I also sent him a couple of articles from Whole Dog Journal. But, that’s how they trained Quincey & Cooper. Boot camp. And he believes in it and doesn’t know how he would train Zeke using treats and food and praise with the other 2 ‘dales around. They would want all of the treats too. He says his best tool right now is time-outs, which means Zeke has to go out on the deck by himself. He can look through the glass door and see the rest of the pack, but can’t join them. He doesn’t want to use his crate for time-outs, because Zeke is already a bit resistant to the crate and that could make him hate it. Makes sense. Plus, he said it’s hard to open and close.
Sunday, Chris reported that things were a little better. He is using a zap collar on him with the setting on its lowest tickle, as Chris describes it. He’s not bad on lead with the prong collar and has no objection to it now.
Chris still believes there is something going on in his hindquarters. He has been squatting to relieve himself but started trying to lift a leg mirroring what the other boys were doing, but not getting it up very high.
He is being groomed today (07-20-20) and hopefully Chris will be able to tell more about his skin issues. He’s not as itchy. Quincy is assuming the big brother role and correcting Zeke occasionally and barking at him when Zeke is pestering Chris. Zeke understands the pack hierarchy, thanks to Q.
07-20-2020 from Chris:
It occurred to me that the convenience of using iMessage to correspond with you, Jackie, makes the objective of informing all y’all about his progress more difficult, so I’m back to e-mail. I accidentally soaked my laptop with Chardonnay, two weeks ago, with predictable results, so while I’m waiting for Dell to send it back to me, I’ve been using this iPad, with a keyboard case, and it’s easier to compose and send stuff on the messaging app, but not so easy for the recipient to do anything with the resulting material.We see modest signs of improvement, each day. Tina had a hard time getting him into his crate, last evening, so that hasn’t changed. BUT, at 3 a.m., Quincey woke me up, so I let all three of them out, then, when the time came to go back to bed, Zeke went right back into his crate, lured by just one treat, no problem. And he doesn’t fuss, AT ALL, once he’s in there – Cooper usually starts yodeling between 5.30 and the 6 a.m. Dawn Patrol departure, and Quincey will join in. But Zeke just lies there until I come for him.
He still resists having a collar installed. I got him with the training collar while he was having his breakfast, but then, when I needed to get him hooked up to go to the groomer, he led me on a merry chase around the garage, resisting the collar. I eventually managed to make a slip-noose out of his lead, and got that on him.
He doesn’t like getting into nor out of the car, either. I got him to rest his forepaws, finally, on the back bumper, then hoisted him in without any resistance, but when it was time to exit in the parking lot at Nanhall, I couldn’t get him to jump out, and he would shy from me if I reached for his leash. Eventually, he retreated to the driver’s seat, so I opened THAT door, and took his leash. The realization dawned that the game was up, so he condescended to jump out, but I am wondering if whatever is lurking in his back end makes the prospect of jumping down daunting. The drop from his perch on my seat is probably 6” less than from the cargo bed in the back, whether through the liftgate, or one of the rear passenger doors. That might have been enough to reassure him.
I’ll forward pictures of him, post grooming. I told them to take his coat down pretty closely, so we can see what’s going on with his skin. Those hot spots have firmed up into scars or scabs, now that he’s on the Rilexene, and they will be cautious along his spine and scalp. The next major milestone will be the assessment with our trainers, Jennifer and Tony, on Wednesday. I’ve booked Cooper and Quincey for a play date, so we can concentrate fully on the Z-man, without any of the peculiar “pack” dynamics.
07-18-2020:
I just resent the link, to you, only, at this e-mail address. Please let me know if you got it. You might check your junk mail folder; this is an old e-mail address that I set up long ago. It’s an acronym for my initials, C W, which wouldn’t be allowed in the current protocols, and I think that some of the more aggressive junk filters route it into the trash just because of the short user name.Zeke resource guards. I was in the home office/den, actually scanning the Cobb records, and then sending the link to you, Christina, and Bay, when our friend snorfled into my briefcase, which lies on the floor next to the desk. There was an unopened package of cough drops in there, from my last road trip, which would have been early November. I guess I had an scratchy throat or something.
Anyway, he made off with it. We cornered him, and when I went to remove it from his mouth, he snapped at me. Significantly, he didn’t clamp down, he just mouthed me, but either coming or going, his back teeth opened a small cut on the edge of my hand.
Something happened, presumably last night, that’s changed his relationship with our incumbents, too. This morning, when I took them out for their first bio break/play session, Cooper was reluctant to get off the deck, and never left the concrete patio that surrounds the pool. He’s the more energetic and playful (2y 9m) of the two, and the one most in need of stimulation, so it’s peculiar.
Zeke always acquiesces to the Homeboys, unless he has something of value. Then, the fangs came out. I tried to prompt a game of “fetch” using our late, lamented Colin’s Jolly Ball, but Q has never figured out that you have to give it up AFTER retrieving it, so I lost interest, and wandered off in search of 💩 to collect. When I got back, Quincey had abandoned it, and Zeke had assumed custody. I approached him, casually, thinking we could start working on a new, fun game. But as soon as I extended my hand, showing interest in the ball, he lunged at me and growled. No harm, not even contact, but he’s certainly determined to hold on to anything of value.
We’ve asked our trainer to come and do an evaluation next week. We’ll get their input, then decide if a series of home visits might be a good idea. They don’t have openings for residential guests until September, so we hope he’ll have found a forever home by then, and even if not, I’d have to be convinced that another change of venues won’t do more damage, than the training might correct.
He’s totally bonded to me, I’m probably the first two-legger whose paid any attention to him, fed him regularly, and have given him affection and positive reinforcement. His preferred resting place is right next to me.
I discovered he has dew claws, on his lower forelegs – not something one associates with Airedales. They are quite firmly anchored, so not candidates for hasty removal.
From Chris Patterson 07-17-2020
He’s sweet natured, and accepts our Boys’ position as incumbents. He is desperate to play, and Cooper obliges him, but Quincey is stand-offish. Not hostile, unless he feels his prerogatives are being usurped, but Zeke is far too big and energetic for the Q-Dude.He’s young – I’m guessing younger than Cooper (2y 9m) – and has had little in the way of training. He does seem to sit when encouraged, but whether he’s responding to the command, or just falling in line with the other two is an open question.
He’s had some abuse. He doesn’t like having collars put on, nor removed. He’s still wearing the one Jaye bought for him, yesterday, which was too tight, but I finally persuaded him to let me loosen it a few minutes ago. I tried fitting him with a pinch collar this a.m., but he cried piteously every time it tightened, so I removed it. He’s seen them before, and DOESN’T like them.
He craves attention and affection, but shies away even from a properly offered hand (below eye level, palm up), instinctively. Eventually, he lets me pat him. I think, as time passes, trust builds, and the “strangeness” of the new surroundings fades, he’ll be OK with normal interactions. He definitely looks to us for guidance whenever he has a decision to make, he’s not an independent thinker.
He was very resistant to the crate, last evening. Tina finally got him in, and, once inside, he was quiet. It has a suspended mesh “platform” bed, which he seemed fine with, although every time he rolled over, I could hear it upstairs. He came out, fine, this morning.
We’re not sure if he’s accustomed to living indoors. This morning, after C & Q went to daycare, I played with him a bit in the yard, then brought him in through the garage, but he didn’t want to come on into the house. I gave him a bully, which he turned back into the garage to eat. Eventually, I attached his leash, and brought him inside. Not sure what’s going on, there.
He was terribly infested with fleas, so we put him in the swimming pool (saline, not chlorine) and used an entire bottle of flea shampoo on him. I’ve asked the vet to give him another bath this morning – I could actually SEE the fleas coming out of his coat, and flying to a different location, yesterday, rather like Pigpen in the Charlie Brown comics. The coat is quite dense, and I feel some lesions, that I suspect are the result of him scratching and chewing. Unfortunately, I can’t get anyone to groom him until Monday, and my direction then will be to take the coat WAY down, so we can see what’s going on there, and to give him a break from this unending heat wave we’re all suffering with.
He eats, drinks, and poops normally. He’s a food guarder – and is very aggressive when meals are being served. He doesn’t appear emaciated, and I’m sure he was getting suitable rations at the shelter, but I sense that meals were an irregular blessing, not part of an expected routine. We feed them separately, and supervised – Quincey is also food aggressive, and will bully Cooper away from his bowl, given the opportunity.
He peed once in the breakfast nook, and again, this a.m., in the garage. The latter was my mistake – when he reacted so badly to the collar, I turned around in the driveway without his having had relief, then puttered in the garage taking their leads and collars off. I should have led them straight outside and dealt with it, then. He doesn’t lift his leg, just squats.
I walked him a bit after C&Q left, he examined the “marking post” on the street that everyone in the ‘hood uses, and after digesting all the news, he squatted to leave a record of his visit. But he urinates in one, long, stream, no preserving some for the next interesting spot on the walk.
He’s too strong for me, without a pinch collar. I got half a mile from the house, with just a cloth martingale collar, when he started pulling hard to catch up with a lady and her dog. It takes all my strength to hold him back. Very reactive, but in a friendly, “let’s have some fun” way, not at all hostile. He doesn’t mind the leash, but just hasn’t been trained to walk properly.
I feel pretty confident that he’ll get over his fears and phobias gradually, as time passes. He’s seeing Dr. Clark for a wellness exam in half an hour, and I’ve asked them to give him another bath, in case some of the fleas escaped yesterday’s intervention. He’ll go to Nanhall on Monday, where I’ll instruct them to clipper him fairly close. Normally, they hand strip our Boys, which this coat could probably benefit from, but it’s too far gone now. I’m pretty sure he’s a shedder, the Shepherd coming out in him. I’m being careful not to touch my face after I’ve been in contact with him. The Covid-19 protocols are helpful in more ways, than one!
I’ll keep you posted. I think he’s best off in a home with active younger adults, and although we have no way of testing him, I don’t sense that children would challenge his fundamentally good nature. Although he’s probably got 20 lbs on Quincey, and 25 on Cooper, he yields to their authority, and I wouldn’t be reluctant about introducing him into a household with another dog or two. Cats, I can’t offer any assessment of – our Boys don’t like them, and my allergies render our being custodians a moot point.
Thus far, we’re doing OK, and he’s sleeping at my feet, now. I am not benefitting from unconditional support from my wife, though, which may get better as he adapts, but I would encourage you to start campaigning for a forever home sooner rather than later. He’s a sweet fellow, and I think will respond with training and encouragement, but we just couldn’t cope with three, even if all were as well trained and behaved as Quincey. At some point, the pandemic will be dealt with, and we’ll resume our travels. For now, we ain’t goin no place, so have some capacity to give this lost soul a home and some loving.
Let me know if there’s anything more you guys need.
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Hi, Chris. This is a really good report on Zeke. I’m glad that he’s looking to you for guidance and has already allowed you to loosen his collar and pat him. As he learns to trust more, he should be easy to train to appreciate inside living, playing with toys, being handled and petted, and allowing a collar and leash. I wonder if he has some sore spots/lesions on his neck that caused him to cry when you tried to put on the pinch collar. Under all that hair, you probably can’t tell. It will be good to see him all cleaned up and trimmed as if he were an Airedale after his grooming on Monday. We will, of course, reveal his dubious lineage to all.I wonder if the HS used a Capstar on him before Jaye picked him up. That will, literally, cause the fleas to jump off him for up to an hour. I hope you don’t have them in your home now. Sigh. Getting him on flea/tick preventative will certainly help; also he should be started on Heartgard, which I’m sure your vet will recommend.
I’m not surprised he has “marked” in his new surroundings. I’ve never met an Airedale that couldn’t be house-trained immediately. Don’t know about German Shepherds though. I would think they’re easy to train too.
I hate to hear that he’s a food guarder, but it’s understandable if he’s had to fend for himself with erratic feedings. I’m glad he doesn’t show any aggression at your boys or at other dogs on the street. The pulling is dangerous, though, especially after your hip replacement. Work on that pinch collar.
We are already looking at our approved folks to see if anyone would accept a big boy like him. The HS had said 75 lbs; that sounds a lot better than 80. But you’ll know after the vet visit.
We look forward to hearing how he did at the vet, whether he encountered any other dogs, how he was with the vet and techs handling him, etc.
Thank you, Chris & Tina, for allowing Zeke to have a safe place until we find him a good home.
Jackie
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Just got off the phone with Dr. Clark at Cobb Animal Clinic.They had to muzzle him, he was resistant to the examination. We’ve seen some snappishness, mostly around his food guarding, and last night wen trying to get him into his crate to sleep. He wasn’t pleased when I tried to install a pinch collar, either, and I put my arm across the gap between the two front seats of the Jeep, to keep him from promoting himself to first class, on the way over to Cobb, and he growled, but didn’t bite.
He has some dermatological issues, for which he’ll be getting an antibiotic. I feel vindicated – she thinks he’s got some pain in his hindquarters, but can’t pin it down. He’s coming home with an analgesic – probably Previcox – so we’ll see how that affects him.
They recommend letting the skin infection clear up, before anesthetizing him for the neutering, so we’re thinking the week of August 3. Once he’s under, she’s going to do imaging on his hips, and knees, to see if anything pops up. As you see in his induction record, the Humane Society has him pegged at ~1 year old, and my observations about his behavior and energy level would suggest he’s not as mature as Quincey, aged 2y 9m, so somewhere in the 12-18 mo range is probably a fair guess.
I’ll keep you guys apprised as things develop, but I would suggest this isn’t going to be a quick placement, until we sort out what’s going on, and how to deal with it. I really think he just needs a supportive, predictable and stimulating environment to get past the behavioral issues, but I could be wrong. He impresses everyone he’s met with his warmth and affection; he only reacts to specific stimuli, like someone trying to touch his head, install a collar, or probe his back section.
Stay tuned….
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Hi, Chris. I hate to hear this about Zeke. It sounds like he’s been harshly handled, and you’re right, this will make his placement more difficult. Sigh. We have had so many Airedales lately that have issues like this.I agree with getting the skin healing before neutering. We will need copies of his medical records, all that your vet has done and will do. We can wait until he’s completed care with your vet and get them all at once.
I did not get the records from the Humane Society. If you have those, please send a copy to info@airedalerescuegroup.com so we have them in our records to provide to the adopter.
Would you be willing to work with a trainer to teach this boy some manners and counter some of those gruff reactions, if we can find one in your area?
Thank you, Chris.
Jackie Cash———- Original Message ———-
From: mark cohen
To: Jackie Cash
Cc: Karen Lounsbury
Date: 07/16/2020 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Transport of Teddy July 20, 2020I want to thank you all for helping to save our Teddy! Teddy has great potential and we are hoping that a different environment will be the fix. Please know how much we hated surrendering him but made the best decision for all involved. Our hearts are breaking! Again, thank you all!!
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 16, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Jackie Cash
Good afternoon, all. I’ve added Brook Parish (Karsonsmom30@gmail.com) to our group. She manages the RadioShack where Karen will pick up Teddy. He comes to work with her every day and she says he is wonderful, the smartest dog she’s ever seen, and a sweetheart. Karen, I’ve told her that you have a commitment until 10:00 and should be at RadioShack around 10:30 or so, but please call Brook if you’re running behind. And please let Lee know what time you can get away from Union to meet her in Columbia.
SAFETY
Regular safety – please ensure that you are aware of Teddy when opening car doors, transferring him from person to person, always making sure a hand is on the leash. Remember that he may be confused by the recent changes in his life, including this transport. Unless necessary, remain in the car with A/C until transport transfer occurs; when opening car doors, ensure that the leash is secured. We recommend closing the car door on the end of the leash (with about 4-6 inches hanging outside the door) so that when you take him out of the vehicle you can have your hand on the leash before you even open his door. When allowing potty breaks, ensure that collar/leash(s) are tight for no escape; be aware of surroundings – even a plastic bag in the wind may spook a dog in unfamiliar settings. Do not let him off-leash at any time 😊COVID safety – please use COVID-19 precautions. Please wear a mask when meeting your transport volunteer, and employ social distancing. One example may be for the arriving Driver to get Teddy out of their car and the accepting driver unlocks their car to allow Teddy into their car. After touching the leash from the other driver, use your hand sanitizer.
Heat Safety – It’s going to be very hot on Monday. Do not feel the need to walk him outside if you arrive early. Sitting in the car in the A/C will be fine for him. Please bring along a bowl and a bottle of water and offer water to Teddy at each handoff. We want to be sure that he stays hydrated in this hot weather, but don’t be overly concerned if he doesn’t drink at each handoff. He might also appreciate a small treat or two.
Teddy is a good boy! Transport is a good way to help ARG and meet other Airedale people so, despite current challenges, I hope everyone has a great experience with Teddy.
Schedule:
Leg 1 – Spartanburg to Columbia
Driver: Karen Lounsbury (driving a Green Suburu Outback)
Pick up Teddy from Brook Parish at RadioShack, 410 N Duncan Bypass Ste G, Union, SC 29379
10:30 am — Noon
Drive to Columbia to meet
Lee Gregory (driving a Deep Red Acura SUV with Gamecock baseball license plate) at the Walmart Supercenter, 5420 Forest Dr, Columbia, SC 29206 at Noon.Leg 2 – Columbia to Florence
Driver: Lee Gregory
12:15 pm to 1:15 pm
Drive to Florence to meet
Cindy Green (driving a white, 4-door Toyota Tacoma) at Hilton Garden Inn Florence, 2671 Hospitality Blvd, Florence, SC 29501 at 1:15Volunteers:
Brook Parish 864-429-0349
Karen Lounsbury 704-530-8548
Lee Mason Gregory 803-917-3063
Cindy Green 843-861-4000Thank you for helping to transport Teddy from his foster family in Spartanburg to ARG’s trainer in Florence, SC. You know we APPRECIATE all of you for the time you have put into Teddy – we could not do this without you, so THANK YOU.
PLEASE TAKE PHOTOS WHEN YOU TRANSFER HIM TO THE NEXT PERSON! Please call the person you’re meeting if you are running behind; please call me if there are any questions or problems.
Jackie Cash | 901-438-5782
http://www.airedalerescuegroup.com
Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/airedalerescuegroup/07-16-2020 Jaye Green is going to pick up Scraggy, now Zeke, from the Forsyth Humane Society and take him to Chris Patterson. She had offered to foster for a few days but working full time next week and her nephew being out of town, Zeke would have had to stay home alone 8 hrs a day with nephews female, spayed GSD-Akita mix. I didn’t feel safe with that, so Chris Patterson will foster him, take him to the vet, etc.
07-16-2020: The Pattersons are going to foster Zeke (fka Scraggy) from Forsyth Humane Society beginning this afternoon. Jaye Green will pick up Zeke and take him to the Pattersons.
07-13-2020 Nori sent me a PM that she and Joe are considering adding another dog. They would consider a small Airedale, an Airedale mix, or a Welsh.
November 3, 2019 from Nori Comello:
Jackie, some very sad news. We had to say goodbye to our dear sweet Bowser today. He had been doing great after his surgery and in fact had an excellent follow up visit on Monday for his last melanoma shot. This morning, he was frisky and feeling fine, but suddenly during his morning meal, he refused food and had a very depressed attitude. We took him immediately to the vet. Diagnostics showed he had gone into shock from bleeding in the abdomen; vet thought it was likely a ruptured tumor. It was either emergency surgery, which would’ve bought him 1-2 months more, or euthanasia. We think we made the right choice for him, but we are still devastated. I know that our previous Airedales Hector and Sadie are welcoming him. Thanks for the gift of Bowser; he gave us so much joy while he was with us.07-11-2020: From Shawn Sigler:
Good morning! She was great and slept very soundly. I think she was pretty exhausted. She was bright and happy this morning with tail up and running happily through the yard . I am at work today, but Gail doesn’t work so she will work with her some today on getting acclimated. She’s still quite jumpy with noises inside. She may have been an inside early in life, but she was even a bit scared of the coffee pot this morning. She does come when called and sits nicely for treats and finally gave me the sweetest kiss last night.
I have been watching her gait and it looks to me like it’s only her right leg, looks more like a knee issue as opposed to hips, but I’m not really sure. She will be a fantastic gal!!
Christina messaged me this Mossi I sent her our address. I case you might need it.
2417 Fox Hunt Dr
Monroe, NC 28110Shawn Lee Sigler
1-704-254-4731
2417 Fox Hunt Dr
Monroe, NC 28110
shawn@williamssubarucharlotte.comShe is fostering the Carrabus County, NC, Female Airedale as of July 10, 2020.
She pulled her from the shelter (knows someone at the shelter – Jana) and she and her partner Gail, who is a trainer, are fostering this Aire-girl.
July 9, 2020: Pat Hairston talked to Ian about Bear in Atlanta (Smyrna) GA He was willing to adopt Bear despite the fact that Bear had bitten his mom.
I confirmed with Ian on July 8 that he would adopt Bear and emailed Dan Moffitt, Bear’s dad the same day that we have a home for Bear and they can take him this Friday.
Dan emailed me today July 9th and said Bear had gotten into the trash last night and eaten something – they don’t know what – which resulted in a blockage and the vet recommended surgery but the family elected to have Bear PTS.
Backgound on Teddy via Cheryl’s email with some others:
On 07/08/2020 2:35 PM Cheryl CohenThank you for the great information. It actually happened on private property of the Doublegate Country Club and the club manager would never back a lawsuit against us. I am attaching Medical information on Teddy. I really appreciate your help with rehoming this great dog though he has a few issues. The trainer and I feel that he may outgrow as he matures.
Thank you all for helping Teddy.
Cheryl Cohen
On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 02:41:17 PM EDT, Andrea ShawJuly 8, 2020
Hi, Cheryl (& cc: to Vida & LuLu),
Cheryl: I rec’d your voicemail this afternoon, and thank you. I no longer have a fax machine, so if you are
able to scan Teddy’s vet records and send me PDF’s or jpgs to my email addys (both) that’d be great.
I imagine you don’t want to “ruffle the vet’s/office’s feathers”, being that this situation is a bit ‘tender’, but
I/we (including Barbara Yager, Pres. of Airedale Rescue Group) would be very grateful if “we” can obtain
a history on Teddy’s medical treatments/procedures, etc… The tumor diagnosis & treatment/procedure info
would also be very much appreciated, along with any blood-work panels/records as well.I proffered a suggestion to Vida when I spoke with her this AM:
Perhaps you can draft up a General Power of Attorney doc to give “power” to Kris, so he can legally
be able to pick up and move Teddy to his training facility on Monday – which I realize is “Day 11”. 1-day
after the ‘ordered’ 10-day quarantine period).If you don’t have a POA doc, I can prepare & send one to you. It will be specific Re: Kris being able to act
as your “Agent”, only on behalf of Teddy’s care/transport, etc… An attorney would prob. charge you
at least $150 to do this. You WILL need to get it notarized, so if your bank does not offer that service, you’ll
have to find a notary on or by Saturday. I suggest you do this before Monday, at the latest, because Sunday
is “day #10”).Please remember that Teddy is OWNED by you, so if/as the family of the child is ‘threatening’ to sue the Humane Society,
I sincerely doubt they would have a leg to stand on. Their attorney would likely also tell them the same. Just because you
are working for or are affiliated w/ the HS, the order to quarantine Teddy was (likely) issued by Animal Control (“AC”, which
is a County, taxpayer-based funded entity. That is actually in a way a a blessing – – as we all know (or, are learning) that AC
doesn’t know much about actual follow-ups, no “bite-case-specialist” has contacted you (odd), and they are operating on a
skeleton-crew due to COVID. All of this actually “buys” you time to make Teddy “disappear”.I realize that all of you are having difficulty “finding answers” from the various agencies/persons involved – and are also
concerned about your vet getting “upset” about his/her involvement (esp. after Sunday), but I feel strongly that there is a
light at the end of this tunnel for Teddy. Sad as I realize you must be to not have Teddy come back home, have faith that
he will be in great & caring hands with ARG/Barbara Yager, and her team of Rescuers.Because YOU own Teddy, I’m fairly certain (legally) that you can pretty much do anything you want to “move” him “away” from
the area (your neighborhood/home), once Monday comes. The family of the child who was “bitten” has NO say (legally) to ‘demand’
that Teddy be euthanized. Nor does the County – not without a court order. I further address a lawsuit’s timing possibilities, below…Another suggestion (and, if you engage an attorney, he/she will prob. ask you for this, too):
You can begin to gather Affidavits or letters from people who know Teddy. Your groomer, Kris, other family members, and perhaps
others (friends) that are dog owners who have visited your home and have witnessed Teddy’s loving, playful “character”.
Photos from the grooming competition will also be helpful to have “in your files”. My dear friend, a Master Groomer & a well-known
Airedale Grooming Competition Judge, and groomers are generally very proud to share their photos from competitions.Re: if you are sued, personally:
Your homeowner’s insurance, I’m certain, does NOT “have” “Airedale Terrier” listed on the “top 10 dangerous dogs’ list.
IF the family of the child does sue you – which will take them some time to get organized, and will likely cost them a bundle –
do contact your Homeowner’s Ins. company. Not now…. only if you get served w/ a Complaint (lawsuit). I have an interest in a
Homeowners’ Insurance claims’ business, so I know a little bit about this kind of thing.Remember: Teddy is an AKC pedigreed dog, and has show champions in his bloodline. That alone, is going to help your ‘case’ as well.
As will that the “incident” occurred (as I understand) on public property – or, at least “common area” property. He “escaped” through an
accidentally-left-open gate, through no (or, little) fault of your own, AND has been recovering from a recent surgery. So sure he was
“bonkers” when he got out to run freely. Typical Airedale…Anyways… I hope the above info is helpful to you.
Please feel free to call me if you have any add’l questions.
Best Regards,
AndreaMy 2 Email addresses for communications/correspondence:
andrea@resqdogs.com
AND:
Andrea.ResQDogs@gmail.comNote:
PLEASE USE “REPLY ALL” to me – SO I AM SURE
TO RECEIVE YOUR EMAIL COMMUNICATION(S). Thank you.On Jul 7, 2020, at 8:49 PM, Cheryl Cohen wrote:
Thank you for your quick response. You are giving us some hope. The parents of the children are insisting that he is put down. Animal control does not seem to know what they are doing or what the laws are. We have a court date scheduled for 1/28/21. Lulu has given me the name of a lawyer that is excellent and knows the laws, by her recommendation.
For the past 6 years I have run a 501(c)3 pet therapy group here and have been involved for the past 10 + years, visiting schools, nursing homes, adult day care center and humane education. I also am an executive board member for Albany Humane Society as is Lulu, Vida and Lynn. They have been such a help to us through this trying time. However the family also threatened to sue AHS.
Teddy gets 2-3 mile daily runs per our golf cart (as I do longer jog) daily except recently he had a benign tumor removed left groin and has been on low activity and of course, now he is being quarantined. He had to be restitched twice.
He is not vicious but there is no talking to these folks. The dog trainer, groomer and vet are all saying he has never showed any aggression. He even went to Atlanta with his groomer for a grooming show for two days.
I do believe that he is territorial with our yard and children freak him out.
We certainly appreciate your advice and help with rehoming him. I do not want to put him down or run the risk of the neighbors poisoning him. He will never have any peace in Albany. Both incidents happened on private property, our golf course is eight out our backyard. Covid 19 has brought all the families to the course riding bikes, swimming in the blue hole right behind our house and driving my dogs crazy. He is well trained at a young age and has had refresher courses. This is my husbands 6 th Airedale and my 3rd. Buster was a 90 pound Airedale that was just a huge TeddyBear. Teddy is sweet and loving and he needs to be in a home, as you know, without children.Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 7, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Andrea Shaw < andrea.resqdogs@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Vida & Cheryl (and, cc: to Lulu Kaufman, VP, HS Albany, GA)
Thank you very much, Vida, for reaching out to me/us (with National Airedale Terrier Rescue & Adoption organizations), and for providing Teddy’s paperwork/records. WE ARE GOING TO HELP YOU, AND Airedale “TEDDY”!
Just a side-note: I knew the breeder of Teddy’s Grandfather (per the pedigree doc you sent to me) – her name is/was JoAnne Vohs. She passed a few years ago, and was a wonderful (Airedale-pal) woman who not only loved ‘dales for decades, and had many Champions, but also was a very talented “felted wool” artist/crafter. I have 5 or 6 of her wool sculptures – Airedales made by her loving hands. One is even an Angel (about 7″ tall), with real-feather wings, which I cherish.
I’ve spoken with Barbara Yager (Airedale Rescue Group, LLC – a very trusted and bona fide 501-c-3 org – website: https://airedalerescuegroup.com/).
Barbara advised that they can definitely accept Teddy into their rescue program.
Be assured that I completely trust Barbara (I’ve known her about 20+ years – I’ve been “involved” in Airedale rescue for 38+ yrs).
Once “surrendered” by Cheryl, Teddy will “go” first to a Foster “Mommy” home to be generally-assessed on his behaviors. This could be for a few weeks, but don’t worry about his ‘change of environment’ – he’ll be just fine.He will eventually (probably within a few weeks) be very carefully “paired up” with a fully pre-screened adopting family (NO kids, or cats!, as we discussed that would be best for Teddy!). Also, the “chosen” adopter will have to have a securely-fenced yard. ALL of our Airedale rescue organization partners & affiliates throughly “check out” every potential adopter, and perform a pre-adoption home visit, and several ‘surprise’ follow-up visits as well. As an adopter, they sign a contract agreeing to this procedure that is a part of our rather-stringent Code of Ethics.
Cheryl: Barbara Yager advised that you will need to complete a “relinquish” / Rescue Release form (on their website.
Here’s the link: https://airedalerescuegroup.com/airedale-relinquishment/)Don’t worry about that Teddy has “bitten” (as noted to disclose on the RR form) – Barbara is fully aware of this situation. So be honest on the form, as Barbara & I ‘surmise’ that Teddy probably nipped in an “Airedale-crazed-bout” of unexpected excitement. If he’d intended to really bite with aggression, the whole situation (Re: the youngster who was “bitten/nipped”) would be more obvious, injury-wise. I only mention this, as I’ve had decades of experience with having been “nipped” and “bitten” myself, and learning from our County’s Animal Control Bite Report Specialist, and from an animal-bite-specialist plastic surgeon – one who ‘repaired’ my arm (due to an accidental/circumstantial bite from my own Airedale).
While in foster care, Teddy will be evaluated on a daily (if not moment-by-moment basis) and exposed to multiple & possible “triggers” by the experienced Foster Mommy. This will aid to determine what may or may not “get him going”.
We feel that he’s likely just a young man who is now “full of himself” (very typical of Airedales’ behavior), and may have some pent up energy, and needs to regularly blow off steam by being able to run like a maniac, and get tired out from full-attention and play.
Teddy will eventually be “re-homed” in an environment where he can get ALL of the attention he may crave.As I mentioned when we spoke, adopting a child is easier than adopting an Airedale from we “Rescue Old-Timers”! We’re all “terriers” ourselves, and we’re fully prepared to manage any Airedale – some of which can be more “pushy” & “stubborn” than others. Pretty much, we’ve “seen it all”, so I want to reassure you that Teddy will be in excellent hands.
Please feel free to call, text or email me if you have any questions, or would like to discuss “legality concerns” that have been ‘expressed’ by the parents of the child who was “bitten”. I have a bit of experience in dealing with these kinds of ‘cases’ [er… “hystrionics”, in my “book”] that can evolve when a parent, shall I dare say, over-reacts to what may likely be a considerably “minor” issue.
Also, I know an excellent Animal Rights’ (& Bite Cases) attorney. Perhaps, if you need to do so, you can contact her… but let’s chat first…
Many blessings to you all, and thanks for doing all that you do to help the animals “have a voice”!
Sincerely,
Andrea ShawMy 2 Email addresses for communications/correspondence:
andrea@resqdogs.com
AND:
Andrea.ResQDogs@gmail.comNote:
PLEASE USE “REPLY ALL” to MY 2 email addys – SO I AM SURE
TO RECEIVE YOUR EMAIL COMMUNICATION(S). Thank you.Andrea Shaw
“Chief Barker In Charge”
and Dog Rescue Facilitator
ResQDogs Group, Inc.
“We Make Tails Wag!”TM
Working with dog rescue, breed-specific organizations – nationwide.
Headquartered in Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Direct line: (954) 465-0699andrea@resqdogs.com
AND: andrea.resqdogs@gmail.com– – -below are some (not all) of my dog-rescue & interest/group affiliations:
– President/Founder: ResQDogs Group,Inc.
– Breed-specific dog rescue facilitator – working with local & nationwide rescue groups;
– Regional Rescue Coordinator & Advisory Board Member – ATCA Rescue and Adoption Committee (“National Airedale Rescue, Inc.” – http://www.airedalerescue.net);
– Member: Nat’l. Canine Health Information Committee (USA) ;– Broward County (FL, USA) Rescue Coordinator / Past-President & Board Member – Sunshine Airedalers of Florida, Inc. (rescue);
– AKC Meet The Breeds’ representative for the Airedale Terrier Club of America/Eukanuba Tournament of Champions’ Events;
– Member & Committee Member – Airedale Terrier Club of America: ATCA Health Committee, ATCA Yearbook Committee; ATCA Breeder Referrals’ “envoy”; ATCA Hospitality Committee & 15-yrs’ (past) Advertising Mgr. for “The American Airedale” newsletter;
– ResQDogs Group, Inc.’s database owner and member-list manager (this member-list receives posts Re: dog-rescue info & other pertinent dog care news and update messages to over 72,000 rescue organizations and colleagues on a weekly basis, throughout North America, and beyond;
– Advisory Member/Webmaster: Hunting Working Airedales, Inc. (www.huntingworkingairedales.org);
– Member/Webmaster – Airedale Terrier Club of Florida, Inc. (www.flairedale.com);
– President – Sunshine State Airedale Rescue (an Airedale and other terrier rescue organization, presently in its initial ‘set-up’ stages);– Rescue Volunteer – American Bouvier des Flandres Rescue League, Inc. ( http://www.abrl.org);
– Founding/Advisory Board Member – Dog Beach of Hollywood, Inc. (www.dboh.org);
– Rescue Volunteer – Destiny For Dogs, Inc. (www.destinyfordogs.com);
– Rescue Volunteer – SOS4Paws Rescue, Inc. (www.SOS4Paws.com);
– Grief Counselor – On-call referrals for several Broward County (FL) Veterinarians as a Grief Counselor, aiding in client-assistance and terminally-ill dog cases;
– Level 3-Certified in Canine Healing Touch TM (rehabilitative canine massage);
– Nutrition, supplements and diet counselor (as a layperson, via 30+ years of hands-on experience with staving off various dietary concerns, and allergy-related conditions)
– Practitioner of homeopathic and herbal remedies, including 28+ years’ experience consulting for use & implementation of the Bach’s Flower Remedies & various other herbals;
– and, I’m a “Dog-Mom” to our pack of beloved Airedale Terriers & Bouvier des Flandres dogs at home…… some more info about me & my org…
ResQDogs Group, Inc. serves dog lovers nationwide by providing breed-specific rescue information, case-by-case dog rescue organizational needs, and we facilitate in emergency rescue situations – including “LOST DOG” message cross-posting, geographical area searches and assistance. We ‘work’ with 175+ different breed-specific rescue groups – nationwide – on individual breed-specific rescue cases, and are funded solely by private donations to offset operational costs such as those expenditures we incur to transport dogs, search for lost/missing/escaped dogs, or to have rescued dogs vet-checked or medically-treated when necessary. We also share donation funds that we receive with other bona fide rescue groups and rescue organizations in need.
I also, upon request, perform comprehensive background searches, background checks, and obtain other pertinent info gleaned from public-domain (and, sometimes, private) sources, in an effort to aid & benefit bona fide dog-rescue organizations to “qualify” the legitimacy of rescue organizations, their administrative teams, corporate ‘structure’ & active volunteers – to ensure the overall safety of potential placements of rescued dogs.
“We can’t rescue all dogs, even tho we’re dedicated & determined to try ~ but saving even one at a time is a great start!”
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 3:02 PM Vida Gross < earthy5@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Andrea,
Please find a copy of all Teddy’s paperwork attached to this email.
Also I have the name and contact of the trainer that we’d like to have him fostered at until he can come to you.Kris Morrill
229-343-5369
kris@revolutionarycanine.com
1510 Gaissert Rd
Albany GA
31705Background:
———- Original Message ———-
From: Jackie Cash
To: Marcela Hincapie
Cc: Barbara Yager
Date: 09/16/2019 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: IzzyHello, again, Marcela. Thank you for sending this email. It never came in last week (?). We are so happy that things are going well with Izzy and Thomas.
As I told you this morning, our behavior consultant, Dr. Murray, is booked up until the week of September 29th. I know you are happy with the trainer you are working with, but we do want Dr. Murray to speak to you when she can arrange it after the 29th.
Please keep me informed about your training with Joseph Sacundux (spelling ?; I’m not sure I understood you on the phone). I would like to know more about him and his training methods and the cost of his training. As you and I discussed, we will pay for that training in lieu of your adoption fee.
Thank you.
Jackie Cash | 901-438-5782
http://www.airedalerescuegroup.com
Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/airedalerescuegroup/On September 16, 2019 at 10:56 AM Marcela Hincapie
Jackie,
Hope you are doing well. I have good news for you. We have been trying to get to the bottom of the situation with Izzy. As I told you in our last conversation, we have a friend that is really close to a dog trainer. We went to see him with Izzy and the kids and he gave us some instructions in how we need to handle the situation with Izzy. This was not a formal trainer class but it was 2 hours of him showing us how to handle her around Thomas and other dogs.
Izzy sure have the Alfa temperament and this makes things a little bit difficult, but he said that we need to be constant and we will see results.
Regarding Thomas and Izzy, he said that is Thomas the one that has to show her that he is the owner and gain her trust. We need to change the mindset and that will take time, but she is very sweet and good spirited dog, so we all think this is not going to be a problem.
We will need to take them both, Thomas and Izzy in for some lessons, but I will wait to hear from you regarding the dog trainer that you mentioned before.
I am very pleased with this last week and I hope from the bottom of my heart that we can fix this issues for ever.
Thank you for everything,
Marcela
_________________———- Original Message ———-
From: Jackie Cash
To: “mhb.marcela”
Cc: Barbara Yager
Date: 09/19/2019 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: IzzyGood morning, Marcela. Did Izzy “scratch his face” with her teeth or her paw? If it was with her teeth, you must muzzle her! Please do this with your boys, with visitors. It would be better if the trainers came to your home to see Izzy in her environment rather than you going there. In your home is where the incidents are occurring.
Check out: https://paws-a-tiveresults.com/
or https://www.gooddogatlanta.com/
or https://animalbehaviorconsulting.com/about
or http://www.caninecountryacademy.com/
All of these are Certified Professional Dog Trainers through http://www.ccpdt.org
Please, please be careful. You cannot take a chance with Izzy hurting someone.
Jackie Cash | 901-438-5782
http://www.airedalerescuegroup.com
Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/airedalerescuegroup/On September 18, 2019 at 2:41 PM “mhb.marcela”
Jackie,
I talk to the trainer yesterday and he recommended me two places close to my house. (He lives in midtown and we live North an hour in the suburbs) I am going to go and see them this weekend. I will let you know which one we choose to take Izzy
Yesterday we had an incident with my oldest son and she scratch his face while growing at him. He was playing with her. So difficult to know what the trigger is. We ignored her after that happened.
I will keep you posted with the info of the place as soon as we choose one.
Thanks,
Marcela Martinez
770-514-8837
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09-27-2019
Hi, Marcela. I looked at the web site for Save Me From the Doghouse and I don’t see that the trainer has any certifications or credentials for training through any of the national organizations, nor does he explain his philosophy or methods. That makes me suspicious. Most trainers – and, in fact, I believe all the ones I sent you links for – will want to see the dog in its own environment if at all possible. And all of them have trainers certified by national organizations. I worry that he will use a shock collar on her. A shock collar on a dog that is already reactive will result in her being even more reactive. If he uses shock collars, I would run, not walk away.Did you contact any of the ones I sent?
Jackie Cash | 901-438-5782
http://www.airedalerescuegroup.com
Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/airedalerescuegroup/On September 27, 2019 at 4:17 PM Marcela Hincapie
Hi Jackie,
Hope you are doing well. I went this week to find out the training place for Izzy. They offer a training in order to take care of all the issues. The plan is a 2 weeks full time in the facility and then bring her home and introduce her to the kids and the dogs in the neighborhood. This option is $1195. + $60 for the in house session. The next level is 3 weeks if needed for $1695 + $60 for the in house session.
I talked with the owner and he looks very savvy in the way he was explaining to me the issues we are facing and how this can be change for the positive. He told me a lot of things that the training we consult a couple of weeks ago told us.
The other place was a place like PetsMart where you go to a session and it’s with a lot of other dogs, but it didn’t feel like a behavior correction, it looked more like potty training and basic stuff.
Neither place will come to my house for a couple of sessions.
The name of the place is Save me from the dog house, the phone number is 770-928-7887. I am attaching the business card. If you want to call and verify refer to the Airdale and Marcela.
I think this is the road we are going to take, or I can keep looking for just a behaviorist and see if I can find someone to come to my house.
We had a good week and we are so much in love with her.😊
Marcela
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Hi, Marcela, Barbara asked me how you were doing with Izzy and it reminded me that I haven’t heard anything for nearly 2 weeks. Did you find another trainer who could work with you? If you did not, I have another one I just learned about yesterday. Let me know when you have time.Jackie Cash | 901-438-5782
http://www.airedalerescuegroup.com
Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/airedalerescuegroup/On September 27, 2019 at 5:43 PM mhb.marcela wrote:
Jackie you are right. He talked about that. Well this is not the place for us then.
I will try to connect again with the 3 that you sent me. Don’t worry I am doing the homework as fast as I can. We are the first ones interested in this.I will let you know.
Thanks,
Marcela Martinez
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10/11/2019
Oh, I’m so sorry, Marcela, that your mom is ill. How nice that you can be there with her.It’s good to hear that Izzy is doing well with your boys. Do let me know when you get back home how things are going.
Jackie Cash | 901-438-5782
http://www.airedalerescuegroup.com
Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/airedalerescuegroup/On October 11, 2019 at 10:52 AM Marcela Hincapie
Jackie,
I am in Colombia because my Mom was hospitalized. I will contact you as soon as I get back to the States. She has been really good at home with my boys.
Marcela
07-08-2020: Spoke with Marcela:
When she diagnosed RA 3 years ago
Was in treatment humira
4 mos ago fine, no prob
Last 2 mos she shut down. Lymph nodes swollen. Humira can produce cancer. Lupus cleared up. Also skin turns white- loses pigment. Has Hashimoto’s also.
Lupus new. Doesn’t know how to manage pain and inflammation. Sometimes she cannot even walk. Then ok for a few days, then it’s her shoulder. Very challenging because of her 2 boys, 16 and 11. Husband working from home and they’re there.
Mom can’t come and no one can come and help.
45
Humira induced the lupus flare up – on anti-inflammatory and pain meds
Monday go to dr to try something.
She loses her mind when she walks.
She grabbed her sister-in-law’s neck and put him on the floor.
The only person is Marcela. She has been the entire world to her. She has been the one who cares for her. She’s not able to do anything. Her husband is taking care of her, plus he works, and he takes care of the boys, and her.
She lays down on the floor with Izzy and does a belly-rub and she gives her kisses. If you are a very loving person with a dog.
She hasn’t been to the vet since she had her
Updated, healthy, no scratching, eats anything,
Due for vaccine the 27th
