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Wow, Keri. You guys are really busy! Tish, can you make a Sunday afternoon work for a home visit?
Jackie Cash | 901-438-5782
http://www.airedalerescuegroup.com
Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/airedalerescuegroup/On 09/16/2020 11:12 AM Keri Thomas
Hi Tish – just checking in regarding date/time of your visit.
Thanks,
KeriOn Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 5:39 PM Keri Thomas < kerin1113@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tish,I have 3 very active teenagers and our schedules are hard to coordinate. The only time the entire family is together is typically after 7:30 Mon-Thurs and on Sunday. My son is a football player and has practice everyday day with games every Friday. My girls have Rugby practice twice per week. They also have jobs and work on Saturdays.
Let me know what works for you.
Keri Thomas
615-319-5325On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 4:24 PM CUSTOM < LoutisciaL@comcast.net> wrote:
Keri.
Hope all is well. Would like to come by on my way home from work one night next week. Between 5 and 530. Do you have preferences?
Look forward to meeting.
TishSent from Xfinity Connect App
—— Original Message ——
From: Keri Thomas
To: Jackie Cash
Cc: Tish Moran, Pat Nowak Hairston, Barbara Reese Yager
Sent: September 9, 2020 at 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: Airedale Rescue Home VisitThanks Jackie!
Looking forward to hearing from you Tish!
Keri Thomas
09-15-2020: Zoe & Matt do want BB, but can’t get her until the weekend of Sept. 26. Lynlee is ok with that.
A recruiter for Pfizer. Hire for global supply, engineers, scientists, supply chain mgrs, Sanford, NC, Andover, MA, and a few others.
they had an Airedale who died 4 years ago. Old Biddy cabinet. She was 12 got her when she was active duty military Air Force and in Germany. Scoured the pet section of the base newspaper. Her English teacher in middle school had an Airedale. A young couple whose dad bred dales in the US, bought this German Airedale. The couple was pregnant. She was 7 months old. They moved back in 08-09. Photos on FB of her ‘dale. Low level deck 3 steps – she was 11 and hurt her back when she apparently jumped off after a cat. She had a growth on the back of her leg, growing, going to the chiropractor, they had to make the decision to put her down. Had gone everywhere with them for her life.
They want BB. When they first saw the photo of BB, she knew that she wanted her.
09-14-2020: Mary McEneaney will do the home visit and I’ve connected them via email.
Vet reference:
Deerborn Animal Hospital: 235 DeKalb Industrial Way, Decatur, GA 30030, 404-377-6477 (this was my vet for the last 8 or so years of Sebastion’s life)Sebastion was kept up to date and had dental cleanings, on HW preventative. Good reference.
09-13-2020: Morning, Chris. ARG is indebted to you and Tina for your commitment to Zeke and to ARG, despite your allergies. It is a significant sacrifice for both you and Tina, and it is a disruption to your usual happy, trouble-free household. In all of my history with ARG (18-19 years?), I don’t recall anyone with the tenacity and commitment to an Airedale that you have shown.
I believe Zeke can absolutely benefit from more training, and I’d like to suggest a different form of training for him that doesn’t use an electronic collar. I understand that you have used Jennifer for training for all your Airedales and her training has worked wonderfully. But your Airedales have grown up in an environment where they were valued, where they were taught to be good human companions. We don’t know Zeke’s history except to know that he was not trained nor taught to know his boundaries. He was not trained, he was neglected, and he was punished.
I have searched the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers ( https://ccpdt.org) and found several trainers in your area who we would like you to contact just to get another point of view and perhaps some extra tools in your arsenal for working with Zeke. ARG is committed to ensuring that he succeeds and can be placed with assurance in a good home. And, we are committed to you and Tina and your boys so that you aren’t having to measure your moves and tiptoe around his dominant behavior.
Please contact any of these trainers in your area and see if they can help.
https://angelspawacademy.wixsite.com/dogtrainingandpetsit
https://pawsitivefoundations.com/Thank you for everything you are doing.
Jackie Cash
09-12-2020: When the Cepulos came to pick him up yesterday, John and I were busy loading up their car, then when we got to the kennel, I went to retrieve Zeke, and Tina chatted with them. There were some things I didn’t know, and she’s shared with me today as the situation evolved.
John & Bonnie were intending to crate Zeke during their working hours, taking him for outdoor walks when they had breaks in their schedule. I don’t believe this necessarily was a trigger for what happened, but having had six Airedales, five from being freshly whelped and one arriving at eight months, I don’t think that’s a good routine for a large, high-energy animal like our chosen breed. They need space to run and the latitude to stretch out.
We crated Cooper’s uncle, Colin, and his BFF Quincey had to go, too, when both of us had to leave the house, because Colin’s separation anxiety caused chewing, and we had thousands of dollars in damage to millwork and furnishings before we finally yielded to the inevitable. But we would never be gone more than a couple of hours.
I thought you might bear this in mind, if the Cepulos continue to be interested in an Airedale. A more senior dog, that has been accustomed to kenneling, might be OK, but I can’t imagine an adolescent or young adult faring well with that sort of regimen.
From: Chris Patterson
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 6:50 PM
To: Jackie Cash
Subject: The Zekester returns to BaseOurs welcomed him with open arms, but he’s still pushing back on Quincey’s pack leadership. The old dude stands his ground, and it’s not a crisis, but I’ll be watching it. If warfare breaks out, we’re going to have to segregate them, somehow.
I don’t think I can imagine a better placement for him than the Cepulos; both veteran dog owners, lovely physical surroundings, and obviously more than able to provide for him. We need to get this behavior brought to heel before we convey him to anyone else. And, Jackie, as mentioned in our conversation, I wouldn’t rule them out as a possible home, he just has to learn how to live with people other than Tina and I. As far as that goes, he’s been fine – it’s not even 36 hours since he left, and our relationship with him is unchanged. He still lets me wipe off his feet, which has been a long process.
Whatever demons he needs to have excorcised are beyond our ability to deal with, so we’re going to commit him to Jennifer and her husband, Tony, who helped us with Colin and Quincey when we became a two-dog household for the first time, and again when Cooper joined the household two years ago. They do sporting dog, security, and service dog training, as well as rescuing pound dogs and doing behavioral correction. She pegged what happened – Zeke was testing the limits and trying to establish his primacy in the new situation. I find it hard to be critical of the Cepulos; like us, they aren’t “dog whisperers”, but this behavior isn’t something any of us have encountered, and they don’t have the time to devote to him, that even we do. They’re still earning a living!
And living in fear of being randomly bitten isn’t something anyone wants to deal with. I confess, we had our anxieties in the first couple of weeks, as you’ll recall I got bitten a couple of times, and the episode with the empty food bag and Tina was quite disturbing.
We aren’t giving up – as also described, we would be standing up as “Failed Fosters” were it not for our physical incompatibility with him. It’s going to be a longer journey than any of us might have anticipated, but he will make the right family a wonderful, life-long companion, when the wrinkles are ironed out.
Yeah, Kelly, echoing Pat’s thoughts, don’t blame yourself. And, remember, they hadn’t even begun to establish a routine with Zeke, what torpedoed this was his assertiveness – as they described it to me, and I think to you, too, the biting was unprovoked.
As far as I’m concerned, the Cepulos have a wonderful setting and the right background to be dog parents. The revelation about the plan to crate him most of the time came very late, literally as I was getting Zeke up into their car, in a casual conversation between Bonnie and Tina. And had nothing to do with the “fail”. This is entirely on Zeke, not you, me, or the Cepulos.
We’ll work on the underlying behavioral issue. None of us want to place well-intentioned adopters in any danger. Had I any inkling that was lurking, I wouldn’t have let him go to their home.
—–Original Message—–
From: Kelly
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 8:32 PM
To: Chris Patterson
Cc: Jackie Cash
Subject: Re: More Color…Thank you so much Chris. Not sure how long I’ve been with ARG, but I think this was maybe the 1st one of “my folks” that I vetted…that got a dog; big, FAT FAIL. I feel bad for them, for you as I know you’re allergic, for Zeke… just all the way around crappy feeling. Again my thanks to you & Jackie for staying the course & for the core for their support. Kelly
Sent from my iPhone
I’ll keep everyone posted.
09-13-2020
Obviously, we’re between a rock and a hard place with regards to Zeke. We’ve canceled the duct cleaners that were to come on Wednesday; he’s going to be refreshing the supply of irritants continuously, so why invest in removing what’s already accumulated?We had a confrontation this morning. I carelessly left a bag that I’d packed with a supply of his food, for the Cepulos, on Friday morning, lying empty on the counter by the exit door to the garage. Exactly the same location as the scary confrontation he had with Tina a month ago. He toddled in there, and pulled it off the counter, once they’d all breakfasted.
I recognized what I was facing. With a combination of stern commands, signals to his (vibrating) training collar, and a high value treat, I was able to back him down, get his head away from the bag, and get him back out of the laundry room. But it was definitely a test of wills, and I could see and feel the wheels turning – is this really a dude I want to bite?
The description of the attacks on John and Bonnie that I got, didn’t suggest resource guarding, more like dominance. “I’m in charge, here, not you, and I will do as I please”, sort of stuff.
I’ll start simulating situations to provoke the response described above, and work to erase it. But, I think he’s too respectful of us, as “pack leaders”, and knows he’d have to get past Quincey first, anyway, for us to encounter the “King of the Hill” stuff that the Cepulos were forced to deal with. I would welcome any advice from you dog whisperers. These are uncharted waters for us.
Herr Edrick’s mistress recommended a counsellor that she’s used with behavioral issues, up in Virginia, but I can’t even get a phone consult before October 8, and we need to get things well advanced before that date rolls around. Jennifer will likely call tomorrow, they don’t conduct business on Sundays, and I called her late yesterday afternoon, as I was on my way to retrieve Zeke.
I would be extremely reluctant to move him into a new home setting, whether foster or permanent, knowing now what we learned from his disastrous experience. It’s easy to find fault with the Cepulos – things might have improved with more patience on their part, and taking him out into a strange, stimulating environment like PetSmart, given the anxiety he’d already been exhibiting, wasn’t the best idea, but I’m I’d impressed on them with the risk to home and hearth of leaving him by himself, and I assume that they, being fairly recently married, like to share and explore things together. We have to remember, though, that the snapping at John started after he’d had several hours with them, in the house, with their full and undivided attention, over two separate instances. They’d had him out for walks, fed him, and let him keep them company to help him settle in. They aren’t children, poking and picking at him.
I feel our best path forward is to consign him to Jennifer and Tony for at least a week. I’m apprehensive about yet another change, but he cries out for serious, professional intervention, which is beyond our capabilities, and we have the added complication of two incumbents, who variously engage, tolerate, and ignore him. Their presence makes it hard to keep him focused, and they can actively interfere. In the episode described, above, Quincey was of the opinion that if Zeke was too stupid to take the proffered treat, he was certainly happy to look after it. It’s difficult to segregate them elegantly in this open concept home, so if we have to, it’s obvious, and resentment would build.
When we get him to a place where we’re comfortable that he’s not an imminent threat to new acquaintances, I would still think a well-experienced dog owner would be the best match. Whatever scars he’s carrying aren’t going to vanish overnight, and his size alone makes him pretty formidable. A well-established, socialized, companion or two would also be welcome. I realize that is the profile of your ideal purebred Airedale adopting household, and he’s a Heinz 57, with that hip problem, so we may be looking for the Holy Grail. I would like to have a vision of what would be ideal, though, before we start compromising.
I’m also going to get back in touch with the local Animal Rescue lady, who lives around the corner, for local resource suggestions if Jennifer and Tony can’t fit him in, and also to donate some paraphernalia that we and the Cepulos have contributed to the cause, that is surplus to his present needs.
He is incredibly fortunate that ARG brought him under your generous wing, especially given his pedigree. I think he’d likely be across the Rainbow Bridge, by now, had he remained in the Humane Society shelter – with all he has going against him, especially the biting, I suspect they’d have given up on him as an adoption prospect, long before this.
09-12-2020: Morning Terry. Thanks for the message and the link to your home. You have a wonderful home in a great location for an Airedale. We will mark you approved to adopt.
As for BB, she is to meet a potential adopter today. If that doesn’t work, we will be happy to consider you for another Airedale.
Jackie
09-13-2020:
Hello Pat and Jackie, I have enclosed a few pictures (it has rained all weekend) and also a link to Realtor.com from when our house was on the market which has several different views. The front door is wheel chair accessible, this would be good for BB should she ever have hip issues. The back does have stairs. As far as the rooms and areas, we have always allowed our Airedale’s to go with us in any part of the house. The road to our is a one lane road with pull-outs for when you meet cars. Most of the people in our neighborhood live here only 3-4 months of the year. The road makes a nice shaded circle, about a mile, which would be where we take our walks. Dennis is retired and this is my last year as librarian at the local K-12 school. We have an electronic fence which works great for our Shorkie mix. It’s more of an extra precaution because we always go out with our dogs. Please let me know if you need any other pictures or details. Thanks.https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/198-Klein-Rd_Highlands_NC_28741_M51383-03089#
09-07-2020
Hello,I’ve gotten in contact with this individual and let her know that I am very interested in providing her Airedale a forever home. It sounds like she wants to find a home for her “ASAP”, & I am not able to prepare our home for a second dog for a few weeks. I am unsure if that is too long of a wait for her. But, I want to be sure that I have everything she needs, the moment she comes to our home, (bed, invisible fence collar, food bowls, extra food, etc…) From my interaction with her, it sounds like she would like to find a home sooner.
The Airedale is AKC registered, but the owner states that the paperwork is lost. I don’t know if that’s a tedious process to retrieve that document. My husband is questioning the price she is asking for her, without a registry.
I don’t think the Dale is fully potty trained either. I’m really not experienced in potty training a 5 year old dog. But, hey I’ll have more time on my hands.
Please let me know if you hear back from this owner. I really am very interested in opening up our home to her.
Thank you.
Respectfully,
Melissa PayneSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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From: Jackie Cash
Date: 9/7/20 12:35 (GMT-05:00)
To: Jody PayneHi, Melissa. You will have received my followup email. The Airedale I mentioned is not ARG’s. It’s an individual selling her and I’m just hoping that someone who knows and appreciates Airedales and doesn’t want to breed them will adopt her.
Yes, the interior of your home — everywhere your Airedale will be allowed. Actually, I can view the front of your home on Zillow, but I would like to see the backyard as well.
Jackie Cash | 901-438-5782
http://www.airedalerescuegroup.com
Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/airedalerescuegroup/On 09/07/2020 11:30 AM Jody Payne
Good afternoon Ms. Cash,
It’s good to hear from you! I would be so happy and honored to be able to adopt her. Do you happen to have any further details? Perhaps her location, immunization records, how well she does with other dogs, etc…
Let me contact my husband. I’m sure he’d be on board. I have lots of extra time on my hands, given that medical school doesn’t begin until Aug 2021 for me. So, the timing is perfect.
As far as photos of our home, if you could please specify whether its just the exterior perimeter, or the inside as well. Anything specific you are looking to view?
I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you for thinking of us!
Respectfully,
Melissa PayneOn Mon, Sep 7, 2020, 12:20 Jackie Cash < airedalemail@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi, Melissa & Jody. I know it’s been a while since we communicated, but I still have found no one to do your home visit. But, there is an ad in Hoobly from yesterday of a 5-year-old female, unspayed, Airedale for sale for $500. I have emailed the person who posted to try to get this Airedale for ARG but told them we cannot pay $500.I haven’t heard back. Perhaps you might be able to get this female ‘dale as a private adopter and she might respond to you because you’re close by. We can’t get every one of them. Sigh.
If you wish to pursue adoption through ARG, and because we have no one close to do a home visit, will you send photos of your home? We’d like to see the front, the back, and inside everywhere your Airedale would be allowed.
Thank you for your patience.
Jackie
09-12-2020: Zeke is going back to Chris Patterson. The Cepulo’s cannot keep him. He bit John Friday night, lunged at a store clerk in PetCo or Petsmart, and bit Bonnie today.
09-12-2020: The Cepulo’s will not keep Zeke because he bit John Friday night, lunged at a clerk at Petsmart, and bit Bonnie this afternoon. Chris is going to retrieve him.
09-11-2020 From Chris Patterson:
John and Bonnie departed about 20 minutes ago, from the parking lot at Ruff Housing, where he’s been going for playdates with our Boys.It went very smoothly, and he’s going thoroughly equipped with toys, his crate, bed, treats, and bowls, all of which will carry our scents and will help him settle into his gorgeous new home.
Another mission of mercy, accomplished by ARG! Thank you for all you do.
Another:
I’m pretty sure he recognized them, Jackie. He had four hours with them, two weeks ago, and I would expect their scent, sound, and shapes would have imprinted. I used the ramp we use to help him into their SUV, and he went willingly. Inside, he’d find the “dog towel” I’ve used the past couple of days to dry all their feet coming in from the yard, plus the scent of his food, treats, and toys. I stashed our car, the one he’s used to being transported in, out of sight, and his foster Mom came along, too, so the handoff would feel like just moving from one part of the “pack” to another.
I didn’t realize that John is actually a Greensboro native, and a UNCG alumnus, so they’re back here fairly regularly to see his parents. We offered to let Zeke come and party with Cooper and Quincey when they do visit – I would expect 8 weeks here have imprinted pretty firmly on him, and our Boys will miss him, too, when I pick them up, tonight.
Ironically, I think the family in Clemmons would have been fine with him, too; we’ve had no “resource guarding” issues since before he met them, but I had to disclose that it had been a problem. Once he was confident that he’d get the nutrition and playthings he needed, he was willing to surrender stuff that he shouldn’t have without any violence. But, the setting with John and Bonnie is perfect, and I have every confidence that he will enjoy a long and rewarding life with them, and they with him.
Bay, do I need to mail the receipts for his expenses, or are we OK just scanning and e-mailing?
Thanks, again, Ladies, for all you do for our favorite breed, and have done for Zeke.
09-11-2020:
———- Original Message ———-
From: Chris Patterson
To: “Airedalemail@comcast.net”
Date: 09/11/2020 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: The Zekester Has Landed!I’m pretty sure he recognized them, Jackie. He had four hours with them, two weeks ago, and I would expect their scent, sound, and shapes would have imprinted. I used the ramp we use to help him into their SUV, and he went willingly. Inside, he’d find the “dog towel” I’ve used the past couple of days to dry all their feet coming in from the yard, plus the scent of his food, treats, and toys. I stashed our car, the one he’s used to being transported in, out of sight, and his foster Mom came along, too, so the handoff would feel like just moving from one part of the “pack” to another.
I didn’t realize that John is actually a Greensboro native, and a UNCG alumnus, so they’re back here fairly regularly to see his parents. We offered to let Zeke come and party with Cooper and Quincey when they do visit – I would expect 8 weeks here have imprinted pretty firmly on him, and our Boys will miss him, too, when I pick them up, tonight.
Ironically, I think the family in Clemmons would have been fine with him, too; we’ve had no “resource guarding” issues since before he met them, but I had to disclose that it had been a problem. Once he was confident that he’d get the nutrition and playthings he needed, he was willing to surrender stuff that he shouldn’t have without any violence. But, the setting with John and Bonnie is perfect, and I have every confidence that he will enjoy a long and rewarding life with them, and they with him.
Bay, do I need to mail the receipts for his expenses, or are we OK just scanning and e-mailing?
Thanks, again, Ladies, for all you do for our favorite breed, and have done for Zeke.
From: Airedalemail@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 12:29 PM
To: Chris Patterson
Subject: Re: The Zekester Has Landed!We are so happy to hear that Zeke has gone with his new family. I’m sure there were tears involved. Did he seem to be excited to meet Bonnie & John again?
Yes, another mission of mercy by ARG through you, Tina, Quincey, & Cooper! Thank you all so much!
Jackie Cash | 901-438-5782
http://www.airedalerescuegroup.com
Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/airedalerescuegroup/On 09/11/2020 9:49 AM Chris Patterson < see2xu@hotmail.com> wrote:
John and Bonnie departed about 20 minutes ago, from the parking lot at Ruff Housing, where he’s been going for playdates with our Boys.
It went very smoothly, and he’s going thoroughly equipped with toys, his crate, bed, treats, and bowls, all of which will carry our scents and will help him settle into his gorgeous new home.
Another mission of mercy, accomplished by ARG! Thank you for all you do.
