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888-HomeAgain (466-3242)10/09/18: Erin Johnson called me today crying and said that Livi bolted out of the house this morning as she was getting the children out the door to go to school. She had to leave and take the kids anyway. She got back home and Livi had something – a rabbit maybe – trapped under their RV. As she was calling Livi, a woman and child walked by with a puppy on leash. Livi ran to the pup and attacked it. Erin was able to get Livi off and she said the pup was okay – had a little drop of blood on its neck. She said she had already made an appointment to have Livi PTS. She said she’s constantly stressed afraid that Livi will hurt someone or kill another animal and that she felt it would be irresponsible to give Livi to someone else. I agree with her. She was devastated but resolved that this is the right decision.
From: Jackie Cash
To: Brad Ruth
Cc: freespirit@pleurothallids.com
Date: October 7, 2018 at 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Problems with DinahMorning, All. Eric, I am sorry that Dinah is so fearful and anxious. I have copied Cindy Green, a wonderful trainer and ARG volunteer who lives in Florence, SC, about 2 hours from you. Cindy has worked with several of ARG’s Airedales. I feel certain she can help you with Dinah. From your description of Dinah, this will not be a quick process, but one that will take patience, consistency, and dedication. It will help for Cindy to know Dinah’s background, which you or Brad can provide because she is a SOAR dog.
If Cindy cannot help you with Dinah, I feel certain she can recommend someone in your area who can. We wish you the very best with Dinah.
Jackie Cash | 901-438-5782
http://www.airedalerescuegroup.com
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On October 6, 2018 at 3:16 PM Brad RuthHello Eric, thanks for reaching out. She experienced some of the same issues when she first moved into foster care but outgrew most of the fear-based responses. I’m a little surprised she hasn’t fully adjusted, but you guys have been through a lot.
I’ve copied Jackie (ARG) and Lynn (SOAR) since they will be much better at providing guidance and can better connect you with resources that may be able to help. I’m sure everything will work out with their help. Dinah is a smart girl but still in a ‘new’ world.
Brad
On Oct 6, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Eric Edgerton < coleret@atmc.net> wrote:
BradWe are having some behavior problems with Dinah
It looks like she is afraid of almost everything. Noises, loud talking, other dogs, dumpsters, golf carts especially gasoline powered ruslling leaves, wind, thunder, garage etc.
And she does not know how to tell us she needs to go outside.So let me go thru a day.
Gets us up early, at or before daylight, then I get up get dressed and put socks on. She gets excited and gets in the way, jumps up and down, races to the door and I hook up her leash and off we go.
She seems to prefer early and not much activity outside.
IF I use the short leash she stays by my side and we were up to 1 ½ miles to 2 miles, Then I used a long leash and she just trots off at a good pace. She ran one day and got a full head of steam and the leash ran out and jerked me and I sprained a ligament in my knee, Doc said 8 weeks to heal . No more long leash.
What is she afraid of.
· Garage door opening noise,
· Noise of the hot water heater in the garage.
· Anything that is out of place in the garage.
· If I brush something and that makes a noise Tail tuck in and scamper away.
· Other dogs, if closer than 10 feet she growls and tail tucked in. Have to wrap arm around her and tell her all is ok. She has made no doggie friends.
· She does not like the outside deck unless I am with her. Seems that the wind in the trees bother her.
· Golfers yelling and having fun on the course.
· More below when we evacuated for hurricane Florence see below.She will not go outside in the afternoon, Will not go thru the garage, Totally different than in the morning. Can go outside via the deck, but she sits and says no. Sometimes with coaxing she will go down the stairs.
She will go out after dark.
Three times in the last 4 weeks she has sneaked off into another room and done her business during the day. Twice for pee break in the bedroom and a #2 in the dining room. (She did two of these the first week) Perhaps she was not trained to tell the owner that she needed to go outside.
We have a coffee table in the great room, She has eaten paper off if it, Got a book and destroyed it, Chewed up newspaper, and magazines if they are left on the table or under it. We have been trained to not leave things there
If we leave a cardboard box she will start to eat that.. Done multiple times so we are now trained to not leave them on the floor.
She will go with me on the deck and let me groom her outside with the clippers. Seems to like that.
We Evacuated to a hotel in Florida for Hurricane Florence. Got a large room, moved the crate in and put her in it and we went out. 20 minutes later we got a call that she was barking a lot so we went back, Could not leave her alone.
In am would take her out . She is excited. Open the door, one step out and freeze, I’m not going down the hall. Lots of coaxing got 20 feet so she could see outside and then it was ok. Lots of dogs at this hotel so sometimes she gets upset at them so had to plan outside at different times.
There was a hiking trail there about 20 feet wide and we went on that one afternoon, Then she turned around to come back. She never would go near that trail again. No I ain’t going that way. Walked her to the beach. Was afraid of wave noise and a flag was flying and the cord was flapping against the pole and that scared her big time.
She traveled well in the van in her crate.She does not react to the doorbell, or ‘protect her home’ she has no watch dog traits. (Unusual as that should be a natural trait)
I suspect that at some time she was traumatized by something – don’t know what.
Anyway that is a brief outline of what we have seen in the past month.
Any tips?
Eric
10/06/18: Called Lana Byrd and left VM.
10/08/18: Talked to Lana. She sounds pretty good. We talked about her relinquishing Captain & Chico. I did not tell her that they were put down. I told her that I thought Christina kept in touch with their families.
I’ll fill in my notes later.
Need home visit in Decatur, AL.10/06/18: They posted on Rosie’s post on FB that they wish they could be a “more than one female household,” and to let them know if they can help. This would be great!
Hi, I am waiting to hear back from the vet.
We tried rescue Remedy with no relief. We also tried 2 other pharmaceuticals that did not work. The Trazadone has been the best by far.
She does not have separation anxiety but is afraid of thunder and fireworks.
We walk her several miles per day and let her off her leash in the dog park several times a day as well. Prior to moving into the RV, she had free run of the back yard.
You are no bother. I want her to be placed in the best home we can find for her and they need all the information.
erin
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On Oct 3, 2018, at 2:02 PM, Jackie Cash < airedalemail@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi, Erin. As I talk to people about Livi, other questions come to mind. Before the Trazadone, did you try any other meds or herbal supplements or anything like Rescue Remedy for her anxiety? I think you told me she does NOT have separation anxiety, is that right? How much exercise is she getting daily? Is she thunder-phobic or react badly to fireworks or gunshots?
(BTW, did you ask your vet to send us her records? We’ve not gotten anything yet.)
Sorry to keep bothering you with all these questions, but it all helps.
10/03/18:
Hi, Erin. Thanks for the clarification. To me, each of those bites were provoked and understandable. We would, of course, warn any potential adopter that she has reacted this way so that they can be on guard for triggers. I hope we can find her a home quickly.Jackie Cash | 901-438-5782
http://www.airedalerescuegroup.com
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On October 2, 2018 at 5:57 PM E JohnsonI apologize, I thought that I mentioned that she did bite these two.
The first time was maybe 2 years ago. A friend of ours came to our house and opened the side door to the house unannounced. Livi was barking and lunging over a gate that we had by the door and bit her in the process.
The second time was about a month ago when we moved into the RV Park. The neighbors dog is never on a leash (although its the rule) and Livi was getting aggressive with the dog. The woman came at Livi was a cane to break it up. A few days later, we were walking Livi and again the dog came running out, the lady was close by and she lunged at the lady while barking a bit her side. We have since moved sites because we weren’t having that stress for Livi or us.
Neither bite broke the skin, required medical attention or was reported to the authorities. Livi was quickly redirected and brought under control. She has never tried to bite us or has ever been aggressive with us. She is a sweet girl although troubled at times.
Livi has been on the Trazadone for 5 months and we have seen no side effects. She is less anxious but not cured by any means.
I know that you need to have all of the information to find her a new home. We are heartbroken but just do not know how we can help her. I am sorry for her and that we can’t be her forever home. That really was our intention when we got her.
erin
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On Oct 2, 2018, at 6:20 PM, Jackie Cash < airedalemail@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi, Erin. Thank you for the photos. She is a beautiful girl! We also got your Release form and I need clarification on the biting incidents. You told me she had tried to bite a couple of times and doesn’t like blonde women. Please describe each incident. Was she on leash? Were you with her? Did either of the bites break the skin? Did either of the bites require medical attention? Were either of the incidents reported to the authorities? Was each incident only one bite? How did you break up or stop Livi in each instance? Does she redirect and try to bite you when you break it up?
How long has she been on the Trazadone? Has she had any side effects from the Trazadone, such as vomiting or diarrhea?
All of these questions help us understand her better and will help us as we talk to people about her. Thank you, Erin, for trusting us to find a suitable home for Livi.
Jackie
10/03/18: Called William Grewe, told him we might have an Airedale for them.
Trudy called back and I told her about Rosie/Maggie and a little about Livi. I then sent them long emails about each dog along with photos.
William wrote back that they do not want Livi; they want one that gets along with everyone and does not nip. They think Rosie may be too young for them but they need to think about it and asked for more time to consider her.
